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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6091 |
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1234 |
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https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=3181266
Review is in Spanish. Google Translate still leaves it with some sentences that don't make sense. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38974 |
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I google translated and did some editing. Other than adding a "t" too "Foxtro" and a note at the end on it being translated and only submitting reviews in English, the only thing I changed was what came out for lyrics. I changed "there's a fat woman outside the room" to "There's a fat old lady outside the saloon." |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38974 |
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^ After looking at the last 50 reviews. I see there are three by him all in a row, so off some other platform I would guess rather than written for PA, except that minimal effort went into the reviews so maybe all written for here after all. I could just delete but this once I will translate all three. Any more will be deleted that are not presented in English. I PMed the user who I saw in the forum.
Edited by Logan - April 27 2025 at 11:12 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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pauldunhill ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: March 02 2025 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=3185344
New member - criticises other reviewers comments. Doesn't actually say anything really about the music?! Plus who is Gary Cherone?!? Edited by pauldunhill - May 11 2025 at 11:02 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38974 |
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Yeah, I'll remove that and preserve it here for posteriorauraity. I hate completely expunging such things.
By the way, Gary Cherone was lead singer of Van Halen. He followed Sammy Hagar who had followed David Lee Roth as lead singer. I had to look it up. Edited by Logan - May 11 2025 at 16:42 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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FearofaBluePlanet ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 10 2025 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I edited the review and it was removed again. What was the reason?
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38974 |
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Oh, I had not realised. I saw it and thought it looked so similar that my delete just had not taken as sometimes happens (sometimes functions time out). Apologies. I hope you saved it.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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FearofaBluePlanet ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() Joined: May 10 2025 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 2 |
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I tried posting again but got this error message:
A rating/review posted 5/11/2025 2:17:53 PM, for this album already exist for user (FearofaBluePlanet). You can edit your old ratings and reviews, just log in using the MEMBER LOGIN link, top menu. Report problem by contacting progarchives.com administrators. |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 38974 |
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^ It did have a rating from you, maybe you accidentally rated it without reviewing. I have deleted your rating. Please try again. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Homotopy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2016 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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The last two rewievs (by Pavel) of Roz Vitalis don't have a word about music and are clearly AI-generated.
Trademark ample use "Is not just A but B", em dashes, bold fonts [that the guy didn't even bother to copy correctly], lack of any actual content, off-sounding methphors, all delivered with weird eloquence never seen from a Russian guy. This is as blatant as it can get. Edited by Homotopy - June 15 2025 at 21:15 |
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6091 |
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Homotopy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2016 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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Indeed, though he at least adds some specifics about the music to his prompts and cares to format the text
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Homotopy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 14 2016 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 213 |
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Now 2 AI reviews for this album from Russian accounts created solely to give 5-stars to Roz Vitalis and Compassionizer: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=91484
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 6091 |
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Proggle ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2025 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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This review:
https://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=2963300 does not appear to be an actual review of the album it is posted under (and is perhaps having some effect on ratings since there are few reviews and it is a severe outlier). Evidence: It mentions two songs by name, neither of which is actually on the album, and one of which, as far as I can ascertain from Google, does not exist as a song by Wakeman or by anyone else. Given that the user is in Bangladesh and so quite likely not a native speaker of English, it seems possible/likely based on the florid-but-vague style and strange content that the text is AI-generated. The review was apparently posted on their first and last visit to the site. I have never listened to this Wakeman album (and the reviews do not encourage me to) so I have no axe to grind, it's just an inauthentic review. |
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moshkito ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 18962 |
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Hi,
Logan ... a couple of notes on translations. I've had a life of 45 years seeing works by my father translated from Portuguese, and I have to tell you that some of it is the ______ of things, and a lot of them are so opinionated, as to just about leave the work itself as saying anything. One that really bothers me, is a specific work, which is a sort of short story, where the colors that the main character is wearing, are immediately turned into a political forum about that time ... early 1970's (have to recheck sorry!) ... and it killed the story, that was more of a free form fantasy than it was likely a political idea and concept. Being the scholar he was, the political idea is possible, but I can tell you that I sincerely doubt that he would leave himself open to any more censorship in Portugal, specially when he knew that he was being watched and for the last years of his life, he stuck to literary/quotidian studies and his own poetry. The other concern, is that the literary studies tend to include some critical ideas on the concepts of time and space and the ideas for having seen/created that work, and this is an area, that is horrendously ignored and disdained on a lot of work on PA ... as if the Internet was set on destroying history, to make sure that no other God would come alive, except that of the fan, and the commerciality of the work. Seeing some folks here have issues with translations and specially using Google or other tools is a concern, and while the musician might have a better hope in mind, that bad thing is that those translation tools are still in their infancy and it will likely take some better designed AI to make them better ... and this was an issue before and will continue to be so. Peter Hammill and Peter Sinfield, also did some translations of Italian stuff for several LP's ... and I have to tell you that they weren't very good either. And in some cases, it did not help the story ... Felona e Serona as translated by PH is not exactly listenable or as neat as the Italian version ... it lacks the color, and maybe a more literal translation would have been much better. SIDE NOTE: I'm retired, and aside from losing my Internet or computers (can't afford a W11 computer) I will help with some translations from Portuguese and Spanish ... and if needed I can hack it in French really well (took it in school for 5 years and can read it fine, just not speak as the translations don't arrive fast enough at your tongue! One side note two ... if things refer to history, I'm ok with that from Portugal, some Spain and Brazil ... but a Chilean something or other might not come off as good from me. |
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