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Poll Question: Please choose up to five (or more) faves.
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    Posted: May 24 2025 at 10:32
Vote for up to five you like (more more if desired) if any are liked, and mention in a post.

This is meant as an additional 4's poll to cover various albums that I love not covered in John's (Mellotron Storm's) list HERE (Click). He did already cover King Crimson with Starless and Bible Black, but as these are my favourites I want Red in it. If some think it unbalances the list by being such a popular choice, this is not meant to be a contest. I commonly dislike the idea of winners and losers in music. I know my tastes commonly are unpopular with many here, have had complaints when doing personal faves about missing the obvious choices (not obvious based on my tastes), and my tastes can be popular with others, but please try to choose up to fave albums in the poll that you appreciate. If you can't, that's fine. Additionally I would very much appreciate it if all who vote also list what they voted for... Love to put names to votes, so impersonal otherwise. And feel free to mention your own faves and lists (I like to compare).

1974:
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
King Crimson - Red
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Janko Nilovic - Rythmes contemporains (not in PA)
Cos - Postaeolian Train Robbery
Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass
Faust - Faust IV
Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North

1984:
Cocteau Twins - Treasure (not in PA)
Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Broadcasting From Home
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Hyæna (not in PA)
Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance
Jean-Paul Prat (Masal) - Masal
Violent Femmes - Hallowed Ground (not in PA)

1994:
Portishead - Dummy (not in PA)
Pram - Helium
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Let Love In (not in PA)
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
The Future Sound of London - Lifeforms (not in PA)
Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude
Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume II (not in PA)

Edited by Logan - May 24 2025 at 11:24
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King Crimson - Red
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You

Edited by Cristi - May 24 2025 at 12:16
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2025 at 11:25
Goodness me! Apart from the two albums I haven't heard here, There's not an album here I'd rate less than 7/10. Almost 20 of them could easily have have gotten my vote in some other poll that wasn't compiled by you, Logan. So far I've only tried to place them all in order of preference (within the years of release). But that didn't feel right either. Phaedra and Silent Corner fourth and fifth? Surely that can't be right, as they are two of my all time most treasured albums. Et cetera... I think I'll just come back later to see which ones I think deserves a vote - that has none:)

1974:
Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
King Crimson - Red
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage
Cos - Postaeolian Train Robbery
Faust - Faust IV
Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North
Area - Caution Radiation Area
Janko Nilovic - Rythmes contemporains (not in PA)
Yatha Sidhra - A Meditation Mass

1984:
Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance
Penguin Cafe Orchestra - Broadcasting From Home
Cocteau Twins - Treasure (not in PA)
Siouxsie and The Banshees - Hyæna (not in PA)
Jean-Paul Prat (Masal) - Masal
Violent Femmes - Hallowed Ground (not in PA)

1994:
Portishead - Dummy (not in PA)
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Volume II (not in PA)
Stereolab - Mars Audiac Quintet
Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Let Love In (not in PA)
The Future Sound of London - Lifeforms (not in PA)
Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I

Not heard (yet):
Pram - Helium
Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2025 at 12:04
Thanks Cristi, and especially Saperlipopette! for such a detailed and positive response. We share a lot in common (much much more than, say, me and Hercules, hope he is okay).

It was especially painful for me to leave off so many 70s faves like Miles Davis' Big Fun, Bobby Hutcherson's Cirrus, CLuster's Zuckerzeit, Henry Cow's Unrest and many others. Al least I should have included Big Fun. If I had fifty options then I would use them all, but I wanted to follow John's basic format (my list is more about personal faves than his methinks).

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Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
King Crimson - Red
Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North
Gong - Radio Gnome Invisible Vol. 3 - You
Dead Can Dance - Dead Can Dance


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Tangerine Dream – Phaedra
King Crimson – Red
FSOL – Lifeforms
Faust – Faust IV
Aphex Twin – Selected Ambient Works Volume II
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King Crimson: Red

Greg, much to like in 1974 in both the Fusion and Prog world, but obviously our tastes diverge on what those are.


Edited by Big Sky - May 24 2025 at 17:50
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2025 at 18:14
Rock Bottom - Red - Caution Radiation Area - Faust IV - Selected Ambient Works Volume II

Could as well have voted for Phaedra. Helium is good but not quite up there.

Edited by Lewian - May 24 2025 at 18:16
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I appreciate the inclusion of Janko Nilović. His output is often criminally overlooked.
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^ Janko Nilovic is great.

Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

King Crimson: Red

Greg, much to like in 1974 in both the Fusion and Prog world, but obviously our tastes diverge on what those are.


I'm sure they do diverge, and be nice to know where they converge (presenting longer lists can help with that).

In PA's jazz rock fusion category I really like Julian Priester's Love Love, Arti E Mestieri's Tilt, Eberhard Weber's The Colours Of Chloë, Miles Davis' Big Fun and Get Up With It, Bennie Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus, Perigeo's Genealogia, Terje Rypdals' Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away, Placebo's Placebo, Kraan's Andy Nogger, Eddie Henderson's Inside Out.... Out of PA, I adore Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, Mandingo, and Bobby Hutcherson's Cirrus... What are some of your favourite fusion favourites for 1974? I'm guessing Weather Report might be in there. By the way, before I was thinking I was just going to work with non-poll lists because it is interesting I think when we can compare each other's yearly lists (see what we have in common, if applicable).

Here is my top 59 at Awesome Prog (wonder how many albums you might appreciate there): https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-1974/users/Logan The order often matters little, by the way, but I often will favour that which I have been more recently listening to and what just seems to better fit me most currently.. Would love to see your lists.

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TD > KC > Hamill is all I can really vote for here...

I know I'm going to be shot down when I say this, but I really have tried Hatfield, I've really wanted to like it, but it doesn't do much for me...
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^No one's gonna shoot you down for not enjoying Hatfield. You never struck me as someone who was into the Jazz Rock-fusion sound from the Canterbury Scene anyway, so its hardly surprising.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^No one's gonna shoot you down for not enjoying Hatfield. You never struck me as someone who was into the Jazz Rock-fusion sound from the Canterbury Scene anyway, so its hardly surprising.


Yet I love Colosseum and Mahavishnu, esp the first three... yet simply can't get into anything Canterbury except Caravan, the Khan album & some Hillage.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^No one's gonna shoot you down for not enjoying Hatfield. You never struck me as someone who was into the Jazz Rock-fusion sound from the Canterbury Scene anyway, so its hardly surprising.

I'm actually into this kind of thing, yet find Hatfield strangely unappealing (given how much I love for example National Health).
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ Janko Nilovic is great.

Originally posted by Big Sky Big Sky wrote:

King Crimson: Red

Greg, much to like in 1974 in both the Fusion and Prog world, but obviously our tastes diverge on what those are.


I'm sure they do diverge, and be nice to know where they converge (presenting longer lists can help with that).

In PA's jazz rock fusion category I really like Julian Priester's Love Love, Arti E Mestieri's Tilt, Eberhard Weber's The Colours Of Chloë, Miles Davis' Big Fun and Get Up With It, Bennie Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus, Perigeo's Genealogia, Terje Rypdals' Whenever I Seem To Be Far Away, Placebo's Placebo, Kraan's Andy Nogger, Eddie Henderson's Inside Out.... Out of PA, I adore Janko Nilovic's Rythmes contemporains, Mandingo, and Bobby Hutcherson's Cirrus... What are some of your favourite fusion favourites for 1974? I'm guessing Weather Report might be in there. By the way, before I was thinking I was just going to work with non-poll lists because it is interesting I think when we can compare each other's yearly lists (see what we have in common, if applicable).

Here is my top 59 at Awesome Prog (wonder how many albums you might appreciate there): https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-1974/users/Logan The order often matters little, by the way, but I often will favour that which I have been more recently listening to and what just seems to better fit me most currently.. Would love to see your lists.


Greg,

Yes, Weather Report would be there although, Return to Forever's "Where Have I Known You Before" would take top spot. Stanley Clarke's self titled album, Mahavisnu Orchestra's "Apocalypse" and The Eleventh House with Larry Coryell would be on the list. "Crosswinds", although not at the level of Billy Cobham's previous album "Spectrum" would be there too.

Prog would have the usual suspects from 74: Yes, KC, Genesis, Gentle Giant, Camel, Supertramp. I would also add Kansas's debut and Focus' "Hamburger Concerto."

Edit: From your longer list in the link I counted 12 albums that I am in agreement with you. You have the usual suspects and add
ELO and Morricone.





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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^No one's gonna shoot you down for not enjoying Hatfield. You never struck me as someone who was into the Jazz Rock-fusion sound from the Canterbury Scene anyway, so its hardly surprising.

I'm actually into this kind of thing, yet find Hatfield strangely unappealing (given how much I love for example National Health).

That's ok too:). I love them, but I do prefer The Rotter's Club.
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The one album that jumped out at me was Masal. Mainly because of the year you have it in of 1984. I looked it up and I have it at 1982. Prog Archives has it at 1982. I checked Discogs who has it at 1984. Hmmm. My cd has two dates on the back cover. 1995 because it is a re-issue from Musea from that year, but above that 1982. Hmmm. So thankfully the re-issue I have also has very detailed liner notes.
If you can believe the liner notes this was recorded and done in 1982. But not released until early 1983 on Stand By Records, a short lived label. And a small quantity at that. Musea would do it right in 1986.
I have this in my "best of" Zeuhl section.
So I have switched it to 1983 but regardless this album would be my number one or at least top three in '82, '83 or '84.
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On my polls I have been including albums I haven't even heard. This is something I've never done before, always including my favourites only for the most part.
So for 1984 I didn't include my favourites like Yog Sothoth, Rascal Reporters, Gunesh Ensemble, Uppsala and Bandhada. For 1994 Landberk, Par Lindh Project, Bondage Fruit, Psychotic Waltz and Purple Overdose.
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My picks
Wyatt
Cos
Bondage Fruit
Jean Paul Prat
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