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I never actually heard this album so I can't say for sure but I'm guessing this one: https://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=20117
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"prog stars"?
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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Stomu Yamashta - Go (1976)
Michael Shrieve
Klaus Schulze
Al Di Meola


great effing album.

the live one is good, but the follow-up, nit so much
Well, if I meant the live one, I would have specified. Steve Winwood is an ill fit for this music, but I don't really like the music either.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Stomu Yamashta - Go (1976)
Michael Shrieve
Klaus Schulze
Al Di Meola


great effing album.

the live one is good, but the follow-up, nit so much
Well, if I meant the live one, I would have specified. Steve Winwood is an ill fit for this music, but I don't really like the music either.


I also meant the original studio album, and I think it was Winwood best vocal recorded performance after Traffic until his 2003 solo album, About Time - which is by far his best solo album.
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^ Ok, we can't all enjoy the same:). I'm sure the vocal performance top notch, but I much prefer to hear him in Traffic (and Spencer Davis Group).
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Bill Bruford plays on the second Pavlov's Dog album, At The Sound of the Bell, which most don't seem to hold in nearly the same high regard as their first (I like it though).

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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ Ok, we can't all enjoy the same:). I'm sure the vocal performance top notch, but I much prefer to hear him in Traffic (and Spencer Davis Group).


the thing is that Winwood is hardly the only "star" in Go (great KB organ too), and they're all doing a fantastic job
Di Meola, Shrieve, Schulze, Holland and Thrall are all well-known.
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Maybe not exactly guesting, but "prog stars" have taken part of many mediocre and even worse "prog" albums in the post-1970s.






Edited by David_D - May 23 2025 at 04:26
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

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^ Ok, we can't all enjoy the same:). I'm sure the vocal performance top notch, but I much prefer to hear him in Traffic (and Spencer Davis Group).


the thing is that Winwood is hardly the only "star" in Go (great KB organ too), and they're all doing a fantastic job
Di Meola, Shrieve, Schulze, Holland and Thrall are all well-known.
I know, I didn't even mention Steve Winwood in my original post. The "wrong vocals" gets in the way of everything for me. There's no getting around it. Ever. I've always been like that.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ Ok, we can't all enjoy the same:). I'm sure the vocal performance top notch, but I much prefer to hear him in Traffic (and Spencer Davis Group).


the thing is that Winwood is hardly the only "star" in Go (great KB organ too), and they're all doing a fantastic job
Di Meola, Shrieve, Schulze, Holland and Thrall are all well-known.
I know, I didn't even mention Steve Winwood in my original post. The "wrong vocals" gets in the way of everything for me. There's no getting around it. Ever. I've always been like that.


Well I guess this album would fit the Albums-You'd-Want-To-Hear as "instrumental-only" thread. I'd give you half a point in that would-be thread   
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I'm not that fond of Yamashta's Go myself, but the live version is significantly or much higher rated on both RYM and PA, and I'd say that Stomu Yamash'ta has been a great musician.






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A bit more detail on those on the Colin Scot - same 1971 lp:


Colin Scot - Guitar, Vocals
David Jackson - Saxophone

Brinsley Schwarz - Guitar
Robert Fripp - Guitar
Davey Johnstone - Guitar

Rick Wakeman - Keyboards

Nic Potter - Bass

Guy Evans - Drums
Peter Hammill - Vocals

Peter Gabriel - Vocals
Phil Collins - Vocals

Jane Relf - Vocals
Jon Anderson - Vocals
Linda Hoyle - Vocals
Alan Hull – Vocals


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Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?
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I'm not that fond of Yamashta's Go myself, but the live version is significantly or much higher rated on both RYM and PA, and I'd say that Stomu Yamash'ta has been a great musician.
Yes I love plenty of Stomu Yamash'ta. Also soundtracks and stuff he did, with little or no relation to Prog. That's why I bought Go unheard. It wasn't expensive though. Only three or four Euros.

-and yep. I would have preferred an instrumental version for sure.
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Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?
If you enjoy this project, don't worry about it. But surely you must have noticed before that one and a half hour long over the top Progressive Metal Rock Operas with b-movie storylines - rub some people the wrong way?

The vocal ensembles alone would be enough to turn me off. But for me it's like every aspect I've never actually enjoyed about Prog rolled into one project. Quite en achievement, really.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?
If you enjoy this project, don't worry about it. But surely you must have noticed before that one and a half hour long over the top Progressive Metal Rock Operas with b-movie storylines - rub some people the wrong way?

The vocal ensembles alone would be enough to turn me off. But for me it's like every aspect I've never actually enjoyed about Prog rolled into one project. Quite en achievement, really.


I like Tom Baker of Doctor Who so I checked out Ayreon's Transitus and it did seem very cheesy to me. Mind you, one might call a significant amount of Doctor Who cheesy too.
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Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?


I'm honestly not sure where to start.. I guess you've got to be 13-15 years old to enjoy it?
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?


I'm honestly not sure where to start.. I guess you've got to be 13-15 years old to enjoy it?
13-15 was a lifetime ago, but I guess that I am young at heart. LOL
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Reading through the comments, what's wrong with Ayreon?


I'm honestly not sure where to start.. I guess you've got to be 13-15 years old to enjoy it?
13-15 was a lifetime ago, but I guess that I am young at heart. LOL


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