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Prog: When The Debut's Their Greatest! |
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 8874 |
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Thought I would start a thread on progressive rock groups whom you feel had their greatest album being their debut record. Obviously, artists with one album only is a no brainer, but otherwise, who qualifies? From any era, or prog category....
Of course, this is pretty subjective, as beauty "is in the eye of the beholder"... My entries for prog groups whose best, for me, is their debut, are: King Crimson Mahavishnu Orchestra Brainstorm Libra Dedalus Beggar's Opera Atomic Rooster Spyro Gyra Synergy Badger Ambrosia Flash Pell Mell Starcastle Alan Parsons Project Edited by presdoug - June 25 2025 at 11:47 |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19467 |
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![]() I'd agree with you about Libra, but I love Schock (with future Goblin alum Maurizio Guarini). |
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45449 |
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Top 12 Debut Prog Albums
Asia - Asia Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer England - Garden Shed The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars Fantasy - Paint a Picture Fruupp - Future Legends King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King Magenta - Revolutions Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed Rare Bird - Rare Bird Edited by Psychedelic Paul - June 25 2025 at 11:42 |
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 8874 |
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I don't know Audion too well; will check that.... |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19383 |
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Asia (although to be fair I haven't heard all of them)
ELP Anglagard Not King Crimson because my favorite is LTIA. |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Online Points: 13102 |
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It only means that the debut is a/my personal favorite, and not in any way that I don't enjoy more of the ones listed:
Return To Forever Weather Report Neu! Ash Ra Tempel Magma Area High Tide Eskaton PFM Kayo Dot Steve Hackett Family (except in this case, I only like this one album) Arti E Mestieri Nektar Elephant9 Univers Zero Abus Dangereux Kraan Agitation Free A.R & Machines Deuter East of Eden Rainbow Peter Bardens Black Widow |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30370 |
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As far as ELP goes it is stellar debut but I'm not a big fan of Knife Edge which although not ruining the album does bring it down a notch for me. So BSS is my favourite by them (but admittedly BTB doesn't do that any favours either)
King Crimson gotta be Red and I don't listen to ITCHYCOCK as much as I used to (terrible dated production?!) Asia's debut I would certainly go with. The Nice - The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack. I think with the guitarist David O'List they were more exciting than without. I'm struggling to think of many bands in the modern era for this. Lifesigns debut sticks out above their other 2. That's a stellar release. Dave Kerzner's debut New World is a masterpiece imo and sticks out way ahead of his future offerings which have been signifcantly underwelming to me. That's all about I can think of for the moment. |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20658 |
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I find very little to argue with this list (I've taken some out)
Yesss fot Thoughts of ED ![]() This said, within the realm of "prog", it's indeed much harder to find debuts that are their best albums, since indeed, the bands generally took one or two albums before reaching their strides. Outside of prog, there are hundreds of bands where the debut (or their second album) is the best they did, because that's when they were still fresh and saiying most everything they needed or wanted to say: Journey, Aerosmith, Meatloaf, Triumph, Doors, Sabbath, etc... . |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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The Doors
Picchio Dal Pozzo Homunculus Res U.K. Utopia Charlie Mariano U2 Anthony Phillips The Nice Strawberry Alarm Clock David Axelrod Ptarmigan Seven Impale Boston Hatfield and the North Kayo Dot The Mars Volta Swans Spirogyra Bondage Fruit Cynic |
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Anglagard - Hybris
elephant9 - Dodovoodoo Dave Gilmour - s/t The Muffins - Manna/Mirage Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance |
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Ian
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Taļ Phong - s/t (1975)
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19383 |
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You consider The Doors, U2, Strawberry Alarm Clock and Boston to be prog? I'll say that the Doors should be considered proto prog but usually aren't (I think they are proto on this site though). Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - 12 hours 32 minutes ago at 16:31 |
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Floydoid ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 02 2007 Location: Planet Prog Status: Offline Points: 2243 |
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Off the top of my head:
ELP - s/t King Crimson - ITCOTCK Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells I'll have to think about further examples. |
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Online Points: 8874 |
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Good point; having the debut as a favorite is not meant to dismiss the value of later releases... |
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