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    Posted: June 25 2025 at 10:49
   Thought I would start a thread on progressive rock groups whom you feel had their greatest album being their debut record. Obviously, artists with one album only is a no brainer, but otherwise, who qualifies? From any era, or prog category....

Of course, this is pretty subjective, as beauty "is in the eye of the beholder"...

My entries for prog groups whose best, for me, is their debut, are:

King Crimson
Mahavishnu Orchestra
Brainstorm
Libra
Dedalus
Beggar's Opera
Atomic Rooster
Spyro Gyra
Synergy
Badger
Ambrosia
Flash
Pell Mell
Starcastle
Alan Parsons Project

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 25 2025 at 11:23
Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Synergy


For me, it's a tie with Audion. Both get played more than the others (but they're far from left out).

I'd agree with you about Libra, but I love Schock (with future Goblin alum Maurizio Guarini).
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Top 12 Debut Prog Albums

Asia - Asia
Geoff Downes & New Dance Orchestra - The Light Program
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - Emerson, Lake & Palmer
England - Garden Shed
The Enid - In the Region of the Summer Stars
Fantasy - Paint a Picture
Fruupp - Future Legends
King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
Magenta - Revolutions
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear
The Moody Blues - Days of Future Passed
Rare Bird - Rare Bird

Edited by Psychedelic Paul - June 25 2025 at 11:42
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by presdoug presdoug wrote:

Synergy


For me, it's a tie with Audion. Both get played more than the others (but they're far from left out).

I'd agree with you about Libra, but I love Schock (with future Goblin alum Maurizio Guarini).


I don't know Audion too well; will check that....
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Asia (although to be fair I haven't heard all of them)
ELP
Anglagard




Not King Crimson because my favorite is LTIA.
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It only means that the debut is a/my personal favorite, and not in any way that I don't enjoy more of the ones listed:

Return To Forever
Weather Report
Neu!
Ash Ra Tempel
Magma
Area
High Tide
Eskaton
PFM
Kayo Dot
Steve Hackett
Family (except in this case, I only like this one album)
Arti E Mestieri
Nektar
Elephant9
Univers Zero
Abus Dangereux
Kraan
Agitation Free
A.R & Machines
Deuter
East of Eden
Rainbow
Peter Bardens
Black Widow
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As far as ELP goes it is stellar debut but I'm not a big fan of Knife Edge which although not ruining the album does bring it down a notch for me. So BSS is my favourite by them (but admittedly BTB doesn't do that any favours either)

King Crimson gotta be Red and I don't listen to ITCHYCOCK as much as I used to (terrible dated production?!)

Asia's debut I would certainly go with.

The Nice - The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack. I think with the guitarist David O'List they were more exciting than without.

I'm struggling to think of many bands in the modern era for this. Lifesigns debut sticks out above their other 2. That's a stellar release. Dave Kerzner's debut New World is a masterpiece imo and sticks out way ahead of his future offerings which have been signifcantly underwelming to me.
That's all about I can think of for the moment.


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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I'm struggling to think of many bands in the modern era for this.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

It only means that the debut is a/my personal favorite, and not in any way that I don't enjoy more of the ones listed:

Weather Report
Neu!
Ash Ra Tempel
Magma
Area
Eskaton
PFM
Steve Hackett
Family (except in this case, I only like this one album)
Arti E Mestieri
Nektar
Elephant9
Abus Dangereux
Kraan
Black Widow


I find very little to argue with this list (I've taken some out)

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


The Nice - The Thoughts Of Emerlist Davjack. I think with the guitarist David O'List they were more exciting than without.

I'm struggling to think of many bands in the modern era for this.



Yesss fot Thoughts of ED

This said, within the realm of "prog", it's indeed much harder to find debuts that are their best albums, since indeed, the bands generally took one or two albums before reaching their strides.

Outside of prog, there are hundreds of bands where the debut (or their second album) is the best they did, because that's when they were still fresh and saiying most everything they needed or wanted to say: Journey, Aerosmith, Meatloaf, Triumph, Doors, Sabbath, etc...


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The Doors
Picchio Dal Pozzo
Homunculus Res
U.K.
Utopia
Charlie Mariano
U2
Anthony Phillips
The Nice
Strawberry Alarm Clock
David Axelrod
Ptarmigan
Seven Impale
Boston
Hatfield and the North
Kayo Dot
The Mars Volta
Swans
Spirogyra
Bondage Fruit
Cynic
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Anglagard - Hybris
elephant9 - Dodovoodoo
Dave Gilmour - s/t
The Muffins - Manna/Mirage
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

The Doors
Picchio Dal Pozzo
Homunculus Res
U.K.
Utopia
Charlie Mariano
U2
Anthony Phillips
The Nice
Strawberry Alarm Clock
David Axelrod
Ptarmigan
Seven Impale
Boston
Hatfield and the North
Kayo Dot
The Mars Volta
Swans
Spirogyra
Bondage Fruit
Cynic



You consider The Doors, U2, Strawberry Alarm Clock and Boston to be prog?


I'll say that the Doors should be considered proto prog but usually aren't (I think they are proto on this site though).

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Off the top of my head:

ELP - s/t
King Crimson - ITCOTCK
Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells

I'll have to think about further examples.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote presdoug Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 29 minutes ago at 04:44
Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

It only means that the debut is a/my personal favorite, and not in any way that I don't enjoy more of the ones listed:

Return To Forever
Weather Report
Neu!
Ash Ra Tempel
Magma
Area
High Tide
Eskaton
PFM
Kayo Dot
Steve Hackett
Family (except in this case, I only like this one album)
Arti E Mestieri
Nektar
Elephant9
Univers Zero
Abus Dangereux
Kraan
Agitation Free
A.R & Machines
Deuter
East of Eden
Rainbow
Peter Bardens
Black Widow


Good point; having the debut as a favorite is not meant to dismiss the value of later releases...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 9 minutes ago at 05:04
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:


Picchio Dal Pozzo
Forgot about that one.
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:


Swans

Whoa... Filth is your favorite Swans-album?
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