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    Posted: November 30 2016 at 10:20
As much as I dislike the distinction made between prog and progressive, it's pretty clear that if we call what was done in the seventies prog, we can talk more easily about bands that are still really progressive. That is, bands that are trying to do something new and different, or at least avoid being copy cats, when they come out with a new release.

Listening to a full album promo (the advantage of being a reviewer and DJ) of the forthcoming Pain of Salvation album, I find that there is really something worth calling progressive there once again. I had a similar, but slightly less strong, experience like that with the latest Edensong album, but not so much with the (ever so good) new Neal Morse.

In a quest to find some new music - which bands do you think are really progressive at the moment, and which should I try, or even play on my weekly radio show?
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That's not bad at all! And Consider the Source I knew already, great band.
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Radiohead are still progressive.

They just don't make good records anymore.
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It depends on how you look at it. If you mean that they don't repeat themselves, then Radiohead is the most progressive band I know. They progress their sound. If you mean that the band tries to create new, unconventional music, try Liturgy. They are hard to define and to digest, but rewarding if you can accept their style eventually.

And I disagree that Radiohead don't make good records any more. They are not as good as they used to be (nearly perfect that is), but still great.
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Thanks Watchmaker. What I mean is that I'm looking for bands that don't repeat themselves, but try something new instead, and at the same time don't try to be copy cats of Yes, Genesis, Rush, Marillion, Dream Theater etc.
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Every Radiohead album is different than their previous. You can study them, even if you don't like their sound, as an example of progress and popularity co-existing. But they are not prog Smile
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Chrome Hoof


Battles


Cabezas de Cera


Three Trapped Tigers


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Not 'prog' and not even rock but this is the most progressive sounding stuff you'll find these days:
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Originally posted by Watchmaker Watchmaker wrote:

Every Radiohead album is different than their previous. You can study them, even if you don't like their sound, as an example of progress and popularity co-existing. But they are not prog Smile

I don't mind if they are (considered) prog, as long as it's renewing. And I don't like Radiohead's sound, that's true, but I agree on their progress.
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@Zravkapt: Thanks! Of these I only know Three Trapped Tigers, so that should get me moving :)
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Points: 20320 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2016 at 11:45
Pretty much agree with Zravkapt's reco's plus the Radiohead one. 

Richard Pinhas seems to still have a sound that is evolving, his most recent collaborations are excellent & different.
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Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Thanks Watchmaker. What I mean is that I'm looking for bands that don't repeat themselves, but try something new instead, and at the same time don't try to be copy cats of Yes, Genesis, Rush, Marillion, Dream Theater etc.

Who is trying to copy Dream Theater?? Angry The nerve of them........LOL
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Copying Marillion seems kind of redundant since they themselves were sort of copying Genesis at one point although I know there are some bands who do sound like Marillion and probably were copying them. I've actually heard bands who sound like they are copying Porcupine Tree. 

The thing is that every band has influences. I think that some bands wear those influences on their sleeve and some don't. It's seems almost inevitable though for symphonic bands to resemble(to some degree anyway)the symphonic greats like Yes, Genesis, Camel etc. For bands of other genres it seems more difficult to spot the influences. Not sure why that is. Maybe it has something to do with the keyboards. 


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Yeah Darryl pretty much nailed it, Chrome Hoof and Cabezas De Cera are awesome!
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Eventually everyone is copying someone.
But I agree that particularly in neoprog and progmetal there's nothing new going on.
Same goes for psychedelic and spacerock. Although I love it, there's no innovation whatsoever.
 
Fusion/jazzrock/avant garde and electronic styles seem to push to boundaries more.
In my opinion progrock is not innovative at all, whereas the most innovative and progressive bands/acts are found in genres not on this websit, ie: hiphop, IDM, postrock, postpunk, indierock, indiepop, folk, chamberpop, dreampop, etc. etc.

This band is currently my favorite non-progrock band that is really progressive and innovative in every way possible:
 
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I will keep an eye on this thread, there's something to learn and discover here, I imagine.
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in a word: none. and there never really were, at least not in the sense I think Angelo means.

everything has already been tried in music, so there can be no real innovations. but that doesn't matter as long as artists still put their own stylistic mark on their music. that's the only thing that counts

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I'd like to think the NWOBHM band VENOM, had a distinctive 'progressive' approach to what they were aiming to achieve......Surely, not virtuoso musicians as such, yet highly ambitious, and proud in the process. Love Connie and his incarnations, plays the part well. At War With Satan as a side-long piece of music, was note-worthy and evolutionary within the genre (sub-genre......)
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