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    Posted: November 19 2019 at 10:14
Obviously rhetorical and rooted in subjectives, but I'd wager a percentage of prog fanatics have their own cut off point in the timeline of records that just start to smell cheesy, taste cloying, or have substituted a sense of exploration for mind masturbation.  Maybe it's just the tape hiss, the old machinery, the handmade beeps and blips of yesteryears that I love?  Maybe prog is a portal I jump into to escape the now, the sheen of nowness slipping me off its back like water on a duck.  Maybe I hate the tabla LOL?

I'd love to acquire the names of a band or two, post '99, that other members of an "only the classics" ilk have come around to - especially if you never thought you would.  What modern bands aren't represented on progarchives you feel neatly carry the torch?  What monsters of modern prog would you never mind being erased from collective memory?
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Ok. So where do you draw the line that arbitarily splits old prog from new? Such binary choice is ridiculous? No?
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You need to listen to the new album by Edison's Children and chill out.
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Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ok. So where do you draw the line that arbitarily splits old prog from new? Such binary choice is ridiculous? No?

Definitely ridiculous and more something I would hope others have parsed for themselves, not a line I want to draw for anybody.  I was hoping for recommendations specifically after 1999 in this post.
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Other than certain retro kings like the Tangent, Wobbler, Niacin, a handful of others, there aren't many that truly reflect the classic era.   I also think of Mammatus, NeBeLNest for a rougher psych sound.   There are also those who emulate the spirit of golden age Prog but sound nothing like it such as Battles, Don Caballero.

But basically you can't recreate an era, it is a product of the time it exists.
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I was born in 1959 and classic prog to me is any prog band that's been around since the 1970's. Some of the post-1970's modern prog (or neo-prog) bands I really like are Anathema, Astra, Flower Kings, Magenta, Mostly Autumn & Porcupine Tree.
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Originally posted by jpaleschic jpaleschic wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Ok. So where do you draw the line that arbitarily splits old prog from new? Such binary choice is ridiculous? No?
Definitely ridiculous and more something I would hope others have parsed for themselves, not a line I want to draw for anybody.  I was hoping for recommendations specifically after 1999 in this post.
Ignore that chilly post--  and no there's nothing ridiculous about it, that's why we're all here.
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It’s OK to have preferences. I prefer 70s prog but many of my favorite albums are modern prog.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

It’s OK to have preferences. I prefer 70s prog but many of my favorite albums are modern prog.

Mind giving me your top 2 'modern' albums?
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I'm clearly not the right person to ask as I love a lot of the modern stuff. I'm still exploring a lot of older stuff but my major focus these days is the modern.
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Check out Porcupine Tree "Coma Divine" or The Psychedelic Ensemble's "Mother's Rhymes" or the latest Wobbler.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

You need to listen to the new album by Edison's Children and chill out.

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Wobbler and Tangent are the obvious choices. But how about the band Needlepoint? Very olskool vibe with a touch of Canterbury. Their latest album (Robert Reverie) is super cool. Also, check out Lucy in Blue. Their first album is a free download and it kicks a$$.
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Pinkroom
Naxatras
Nemrud
Astra
Anekdoten
Presto Ballet
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Thank You Scientist
Thieves' Kitchen
Sanguine Hum
Izz
The Aristocrats
Big Big Train
Lonely Robot
All Traps on Earth
Haken
Frost*
Tauk
Riverside
Lifesigns
Antoine Fafard
Phideaux


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Would be helpful if you disclosed what type of pre 1999 prog you like, there is a lot to chose from.

Do you prefer (1977) Going For The One or Heavy Weather or L'apprendista or Natural Elements or A Farewell to Kings or Animals or Mirage or A Passanger To Paramaribo or Songs from the Wood or Rockpommel's Land or Seconds Out or Rain Dances or Before and after science or Feels good to me or I Robot or Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine or Hand Und Fuß or other album from 1977.

Prog is so many things.


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Definitely try Wobblers newest album and Steven Wilson, that got me hooked. If you like Wobbler try Jordsjø and Agusa.
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Pinkroom
Naxatras
Nemrud
Astra
Anekdoten
Presto Ballet
You have good tastes in music. Thumbs Up
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Transatlantic
Wobbler
Big Big Train
The Flower Kings
Neal Morse Band
Knifeworld
Magenta
Modern-Rock Ensemble
Karfagen

There's lots out there to explore but to each his/her own!!!
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

Transatlantic
Wobbler
Big Big Train
The Flower Kings
Neal Morse Band
Knifeworld
Magenta
Modern-Rock Ensemble
Karfagen

There's lots out there to explore but to each his/her own!!!
I only know Magenta and the Flower Kings in your list, but bearing in mind I really like those two bands, I'm sure I'd like the other bands on your list too. If only I had the time to listen to them all. I mostly listen to the 2,600+ CD's I already have. Smile
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