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mrcozdude
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Topic: Prog drummers who would prefer to be Jazz drummers Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:43 |
Here's a list of drummers who often cross between progressive and fusion and back again.
You must choose your favourite and why. I'm stuck between Bruford,Cobham and Wyatt Edited by mrcozdude - June 07 2011 at 20:01 |
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Progosopher
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:51 |
From the list, Cobham. He's powerful, funky, sets good grooves in complex time signatures, and drives the rest of a band like a Mack truck hauling down from the summit of I-80 at 120 mph without losing control. From off the list, Airto Moreira who sounds like four drummers and percussionists simultaneously.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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mrcozdude
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 19:53 |
I was going to put Airto Moreira on the list but than I thought I would have to add (late) Tony Williams and all of the other fusion guys and the list wouldnt end. |
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:00 |
I love the Earthworks album, even though there isn't a lot of focus on the drumming, I'm going for Bruford, does great in Yes and Crimson.
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PabstRibbon
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:07 |
Bruford ! My favourite drummer of all time
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presdoug
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:17 |
from the list, John Marshall-love his work with Nucleus, Soft Machine, and later with Charlie Mariano-complex and creative
not on the list, and under-rated-Joe Koinzer from Brainstorm, Enrico Grosso from Dedalus, and Peter Giger from Dzyan and Curt Cress from Passport-these guys are better in prog/fusion drumming than anybody on the list-all masters at this type of drumming |
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Drew
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:44 |
No contest for me:
I don't see anyone matching his technicality or musicality - no one. Edited by Drew - June 07 2011 at 21:01 |
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Logan
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:54 |
Vote for Christian Vander who is a very good jazz drummer.
Nice to see Lenny White listed. Earlier today I was playing Venusian Summer and The Adventures of Astral Pirates. Somehow I'm bigger on those albums than his drumming on them, though. And I'm a big Wyatt fan, but not so much for his drumming, though I do think he was very good (and have been very impressed).
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 20:54 |
Wyatt makes me hot and bothered.
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Rush77
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 21:04 |
I chose Bill Bruford because of his way he could combine Rock and Jazz so smoothly in a way you wouldn't even tell. His work with Yes, King Crimson and Earthworks are always considered some of the best drum performances ever made and i truly agree with that. He was a true original in how he played and did become a strict Jazz drummer after a while.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: June 07 2011 at 21:35 |
I think you mean "jazz drummers who happen to be in prog bands," and Vander.
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richardh
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 26350 |
Posted: June 08 2011 at 01:40 |
On the list - BrufordNot on the list - Jon Hiseman
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King Crimson776
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 02:15 |
Bruford is winning by such a long shot that I'll give the vote to Gavin Harrison. Amazing style, he turns the drums into a melodic line of its own in PT's music. A nod to Billy Cobham too for some of the most powerful drumming out there.
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JS19
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 04:15 |
I gave my vote to Cobham - but essentially he is a Jazz drummer.
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chopper
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:20 |
Yes, Billy Cobham is a jazz drummer without doubt. When did he ever play prog?
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dr prog
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:48 |
Brufords drumming was at it's jazziest in the 60s and early 70s with Yes. Once he left he became more of a classically styled drumer.
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chopper
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 06:54 |
You've not heard any of his albums with Patrick Moraz or Earthworks then? Or his solo albums and some King Crimson stuff for that matter.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 08:22 |
Not sure what "classically styled drummer", classical music doesn't have drummers.
Voted for Vander who wins this for me by a large margin. Honorary mention for Wyatt. |
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irrelevant
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 09:42 |
I'll give a vote to Chester Thompson since Bill Bruford is way out in front.
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Prog Geo
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Posted: June 08 2011 at 09:51 |
Gavin Harrison!
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