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    Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:26
I did a search of the site to see if this subject has come up previously but found nothing.  What band do you think was the most progressive in the 90's?
 
I was listening to an album today that I haven't listened to in years and it made me think about this subject.  I can't think of any band with a more progressive release than Cynic's - Focus in the 90's.  I would argue that if that album was released today it would be well ahead of its time.
 
Just listen to:
 
I could be wrong as I am not the authority around here.  There are many people on this site with MUCH more knowledge than me.  If I am wrong please send me a list of stuff to listen to.  I'm intrigued.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:38
So you mean ahead of its time? Yeah I can see what you mean with Focus, though the only thing that brings it back is the terrible production. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:41
I thought the most progressive things were happening in the metal scene and the experimental alternative scene, in the 90s. I'd pick Tortoise's debut as my own highlight of the decade. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:45
Production is quite terrible, you have a point there.  I was just trying to see if there were any other bands out there that sounded anything like them, from the same time.  I just can't think of anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:45
I will have to give Tortoise a try and see what they are like.  Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:56
Well, this was recorded in 1989 and released two years later:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:59
Nirvana destroyed '80s hair metal. That is man's most important measure of progress.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 10:59
Originally posted by dtd350 dtd350 wrote:

I will have to give Tortoise a try and see what they are like.  Thanks.


They don't sound like Cynic at all, sorry, I didn't get that you were looking for bands similar to them. Tortoise are similar in the groundbreaking aspect but they play completely different music.

This is what I'd recommend you from the 90s instead:



There is much more metal in this than in Tortoise (who had none, actually).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 11:14

Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

Nirvana destroyed '80s hair metal. That is man's most important measure of progress.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 11:33
Sigur Ròs and Radiohead were doing some pretty new and unusual (call it "progressive" if you will) things in the late 90s. The Cardiacs and Anekdoten were also pushing the envelope. But, I do agree: Cynic, Don Caballero, and Tortoise were exploring cool stuff, as well.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 11:56
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:22
What does the word progressive mean? Compared with any prog bands, I think Radiohead were the most progressive thing in the pop music of the 90's.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:31
^ Dunno, I think Radiohead only became progressive around 2000, with Kid A. The alternative rock they did before that was great but nothing that hadn't been established by others before. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:35
*cough*
Dream Theater
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:39
Originally posted by Andyman1125 Andyman1125 wrote:

*cough*
Dream Theater
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:40
Just to be a teeny tiny bit patriotic - I´d say that Danish band Düreforsøg was doing some pretty progressive stuff back then:




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:40
Cynic was incredibly progressive indeed. Godspeed You! Black Emperor were quite progressive and pushing the boundaries of rock music. Radiohead brought progressive structures and aesthetic back to the forefront, although the height of their progress was in the early 2000's with Kid A (IMO.) Sigur Ros are very progressive, if for their incredible uniqueness at the least.  As for heavier bands, Neurosis and Meshuggah (as well as Gorguts and Ved Buens Ende) helped progress heavy music to something far beyond metal. 

Edited by Jake Kobrin - October 09 2011 at 12:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:47
Damn, how could I forget these guys? They practically invented a "new subgenre" in metal. Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood:


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 12:52
See, what's funny is that there were a lot of progressive bands in the 90's that no one would ever call prog. The shoegaze movement, for example. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2011 at 13:08
Originally posted by Jake Kobrin Jake Kobrin wrote:

See, what's funny is that there were a lot of progressive bands in the 90's that no one would ever call prog. The shoegaze movement, for example. 


I know what you mean. Neurosis was and is metal, but ever since they made Souls at Zero - they´ve, inadvertently perhaps, pushed the boundaries of what metal use to be - and therefor they are also pioneers in that aspect. But I don´t think any of their fans would call them progLOL So they are progressive and they play rock, but are not prog? Hhhmmm - all I know is that they belong on this site, but these things are bound to happen when the progressive spirit is to be found outside of the conventional ones - like say the formula going back to the early 70s. 
Progressive music became something different in the 80s. Take Dead Can Dance and their masterpiece Within the Realm of a Dying Sun. That album has always been considered to be a classic of Darkwave or what some call Ethereal Wave, but inside PA DCD is listed for their later albums where they infused a lot of strange percussion and folk world music. Within the Realm of a Dying Sun still sounds far more progressive(at least to these ears), and certainly when you think about what had come before, which was nothing. It was truly unique in that sense, but it was never about rock n roll.   
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