King Crimson vs Frank Zappa vs Steely Dan |
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Icarium
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Topic: King Crimson vs Frank Zappa vs Steely Dan Posted: January 12 2013 at 10:16 |
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three session musician or schools of music/musicians if you cans ay that, many who have played with KC, FZ and SD have had good careers since or had their best playing in the three bands, also people are expected to "know" their chops if ever gonna appear in a session, if your not on they ill just find another guy to replace you if you fail fit the slot.
I love both Steely Dan and King Crimson is yet to delve into Zappa but will one time do that
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friso
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 24 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 2505 |
Posted: January 12 2013 at 10:27 | |
Frank Zappa is the most innovative musician of the 20th century. This isn't really a poll.
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irrelevant
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 10:46 | |
Please don't make me choose!
All three are among my favourite artists. I voted King Crimson, but seriously, they're all amazing. And Chris, if you're gonna try out Frank Zappa, I recommend One Size Fits All for starters.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 11:19 | |
Zappa's accomplishments make even King Crimson look like small potatoes. Three great, great artist/bands, but my choice is clear here: Demi Lovato.
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Hercules
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 12:16 | |
I don't like Crimson or Zappa much, though I understand their importance in the development of prog.
I love Steely Dan, though.
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Wanorak
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 12:45 | |
KC by the widest margin possible. I've always thought Frank Zappa doesn't belong on this site and Steely Dan does little for me.
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 12:56 | |
....have you actually listened to Hot Rats? |
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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Man With Hat
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 14:29 | |
Oh boy.
Certainly not steely dan... Of the other two...as much as I love KC I must vote Zappa. |
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I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 14:29 | |
That was heavy sarcasm wasn't it? |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Sumdeus
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 14:39 | |
not sure if that counts as sarcasm, I was being pretty serious because I don't see how one could say Zappa isn't prog after hearing Hot Rats.
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Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys
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smartpatrol
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 14:47 | |
1.King Crimson
2.Frank Zappa |
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Kati
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 14:50 | |
I beg to differ with this pole position, as much as I love KC, I love Zappa way more no doubt. My vote therefore goes to Zappa.
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QuestionableScum
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 15:07 | |
I like all three, but I like KC the most.
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Progosopher
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:53 | |
Overall, I think Zappa the most innovative. I prefer King Crimson, but have to give props here to Uncle Frank. Steely Dan has done a lot of great music, but I am not too keen on them.
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Wanorak
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 19:35 | |
Yes Sumdeus I have, but I can't get past all the silly, novelty songs Zappa did!!
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Kati
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 20:13 | |
Hello Wanorak silly is good I love silly because it's fun, life is serious enough plus The Beatles for me in my opinion where the forefathers of prog and they too had silly song titles "I am a Walrus" among others also they promoted peace and love too, so do I Another to you, Wanorak
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 20:27 | |
for songsmithing it's gotta be Becker & Fagen, they knew how to take a simple phrase or idea and distill it into something singular and special
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HackettFan
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:18 | |
Same for me. I can't believe I have to choose between King Crimson and Frank Zappa. I think Zappa is more innovative (this is hardly a knock against Crimson, it's a compliment to Zappa). And Zappa had a greater lifetime achievement that few can match. Is Steely Dan Prog? I like it when they come on the radio. They have some nice jazz rock stuff, but have they ever done anything to stretch the bounds? |
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HackettFan
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:32 | |
Then listen to Shut Up N' Play Yer Guitar. Zappa was chronologically way ahead of the rest of Prog, and then when Prog took a nose dive in the mid 70s, Zappa was still trotting out his stuff. |
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Wanorak
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:33 | |
Thank you Kati
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