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TheLionOfPrague 
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 Posted: November 04 2015 at 22:54 |
 dr wu23 wrote:
TheLionOfPrague wrote:
I find "Relayer" a bit overrated, good album but definitely below the trilogy The Yes Album-Fragile-Close to the Edge.
And I like GFTO a lot, but find Awaken a bit overrated. I like it but not close to Yes' best songs as Heart of the Sunrise, Close to the Edge, Starship Trooper or Gates of Delirium.
dr wu23 wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Sztermel wrote:
Karn Evil 9 (I think it's too happy, totally soulless |
How can something simultaneously be "too happy" yet "soulless"? (Apart from the Teletubbies, that is.) 
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Songs From The Wood - Jethro Tull (I don't like the style and songs of this album) |
Interesting. My fave Tull album. Curisouly, do you like Heavy Horses? Minstrel in the Gallery? |
Songs From The Wood is an excellent album...not overrated at all, but Passion Play is definitely overrated.
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Is it? I don't see it being very "rated". Most people find it boring and a poor man's Thick as a Brick. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't like it much either.
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Uh..it has 1118 ratings at a 4.02....that's a lot of ratings imho. Many Tull fans claim it as their favorite on previous threads about Tull. |
There's a world outside PA  But it's true it's pretty highly regarded here (nowhere near TAAB that is ranked #2 though), but at the time it was bashed a bit and wasn't a commercial success either unlike it's predecessor. Also in most of the sites of reviews and stuff like that I see online it's considered mediocre.
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Magnum Vaeltaja
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Posted: January 01 2016 at 18:34 |
As far as songs that I think are good but aren't nearly as good as they're made out to be:
Genesis - Supper's Ready Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic (Pts 1 and 2) King Crimson - Starless Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond Yes - Gates of Delirium Yes - And You And I
As far as songs that are well regarded but I plain dislike:
ELP - Lucky Man King Crimson - everything from "Discipline" Pink Floyd - Echoes (perhaps the worst offender of them all) Yes - Long Distance Runaround
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when i was a kid a doller was worth ten dollers - now a doller couldnt even buy you fifty cents
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micky
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Posted: January 01 2016 at 19:25 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
As far as songs that I think are good but aren't nearly as good as they're made out to be:
Genesis - Supper's Ready Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick
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you started strong before fading down the backstretch before falling down completely at the finish ..
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emigre80
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Posted: January 02 2016 at 22:40 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
Yes - Long Distance Runaround |
I was thinking the other day that if I never hear Long Distance Runaround again I'd be okay with that. I don't dislike it, I've just heard it enough for one lifetime. Gates of Delirium overrated? Seriously? Go back and listen to it again.
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: January 02 2016 at 23:22 |
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That word is overused.
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"Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl."
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micky
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Posted: January 03 2016 at 07:38 |
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^ pfff.. if so then so is blood, oxygen, and large mammary glands.
the word is the lifeblood of internet music forums...
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sublime220
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Posted: January 03 2016 at 23:13 |
I remember those days when Long Distance Runaround was my favourite Yes song bar-none. How the times have changed. As for overrated songs, here's my list from ten of the big names:
Pink Floyd: God bless, I don't know on this one. Maybe Breathe? Genesis: One For The Vine Yes: Awaken King Crimson: Lizard Jethro Tull: A Passion Play ELP: Tarkus VdGG: Childlike Faith In Childhood's End Gentle Giant: Funny Ways Camel: Anything from The Snow Goose  Rush: Cygnus X-1
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Upbeat Tango Monday
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Posted: January 23 2016 at 07:19 |
Please, don't slap me with a cold fish! Here's my answer: Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother are abysmal as a whole. Really, really BAD albums. Next time the plumber comes, I will record the sounds he makes while fixing the kitchen sink and release it as a Pink Floyd record. Fanboys will love the thing! 
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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uduwudu
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 01:45 |
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How is this overrating thing worked out? is there some sort of guideline? Statute of limitations? A sign of intellectual depth... oh... ok... forget that one.
As you were...
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Rednight
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 10:34 |
Neo-Romantic wrote:
I'm gonna have too much fun with this...
Floyd (with or without Syd), except for the second half of The Wall The whole Trilogy album by ELP Tom Sawyer by Rush The CTTE and Fragile albums by Yes The Battle of Epping Forest by Genesis The Court of the Crimson King album by KC Everything ever by Jethro Tull minus A Passion Play Basically any older group's stuff I have a hard time understanding why they get the praise they do. Maybe it's over-romanticizing prog "glory days" or something. And You And I will always and forever be a bland song to me, but some people seem to go crazy over it. There's really nothing all that great about it, at least in my opinion. No emotion comes across to me, and it's not particularly musically interesting. |
Talk about hard to please. And thanks for mentioning The Wall because all of it is overrated.
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 10:59 |
uduwudu wrote:
How is this overrating thing worked out? is there some sort of guideline? Statute of limitations? A sign of intellectual depth... oh... ok... forget that one.
As you were...
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Overrated = A classic I dislike / don't get Underrated = An obscurity I like
So basically meaningless words produced to inflame the opposition
Edited by Guldbamsen - March 30 2016 at 11:28
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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terramystic
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 13:17 |
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Overrated:
PF - The Wall
Genesis - Supper ...
JTull - TAAB. It's too lenghty for lenght sake. I prefer Songs From the Woods.
I don't listen much to any of King Crimson albums but they still deserve high rating.
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dr wu23
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 13:44 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
uduwudu wrote:
How is this overrating thing worked out? is there some sort of guideline? Statute of limitations? A sign of intellectual depth... oh... ok... forget that one.
As you were...
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Overrated = A classic I dislike / don't get Underrated = An obscurity I like
So basically meaningless words produced to inflame the opposition
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With those criteria half the music on PA is overrated and the other half underrated.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Wreck
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 13:50 |
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CTTE, Echoes and Shine on you crazy diamond are highly overrated by prog fans. There is not enough idea and melody to make these songs that long. There is just lots of atmospheric rubbish which doesnt do me anything but bore to half death. (Ok ok.. half of the shine on is actually beautiful. But there is still the other half)
Edited by Wreck - March 30 2016 at 14:00
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miamiscot
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 18:01 |
I love Yes. They are my favorite band of all time but I never really loved "Awaken." It's merely okay. But overall I'm going with "Echoes." Again, I love Pink Floyd but all the love for that boring ass song amazes me.
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micky
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 20:39 |
miamiscot wrote:
I love Yes. They are my favorite band of all time but I never really loved "Awaken." It's merely okay. But overall I'm going with "Echoes." Again, I love Pink Floyd but all the love for that boring ass song amazes me. |
I wouldn't consider Awaken overrated... it isn't like many (rightfully so) put it on the same level as the truely great Yessongs. I suppose it was OK.. and that is about what it was. How can you love Floyd though and consider Echoes boring ass... that is like like loving Priest and thinking Sinner is too... boring... Echoes IS Floyd. How can you love one and not the other.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: March 30 2016 at 20:51 |
At least half of the King Crimson catalog The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Tales from Soporific Oceans Anything that involves Peter Hammill singing
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...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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someone_else
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Posted: March 31 2016 at 03:45 |
Magnum Vaeltaja wrote:
As far as songs that I think are good but aren't nearly as good as they're made out to be:
Genesis - Supper's Ready Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick King Crimson - Larks Tongues In Aspic (Pts 1 and 2) King Crimson - Starless Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond Yes - Gates of Delirium Yes - And You And I
As far as songs that are well regarded but I plain dislike:
ELP - Lucky Man King Crimson - everything from "Discipline" Pink Floyd - Echoes (perhaps the worst offender of them all) Yes - Long Distance Runaround |
I thought dr prog was the one and only forum member who had the patent on such deviant and outrageous statements, but you surpassed him easily  . However, I agree for at least 80% about Discipline.
Edited by someone_else - March 31 2016 at 03:48
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Modrigue
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Posted: March 31 2016 at 04:47 |
Yes - And You and I Genesis - The Battle of Epping Forest & I Know What I Like (In Your Wardrobe) Renaissance - Song of Sheherazade
Yes - Fragile & The Yes Album Rush - A Farewell to Kings (Xanadu and Cygnus X-1 are very good, but the other songs...) Marillion - Misplaced Childhood (my least favorite from the Fish-era, never understood why this album was considered their 80's best) IQ - Dark Matter Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (Part 1 is good) Tangerine Dream - Pergamon & Logos (again, Part 1 is good) Iron Maiden - Powerslave (half-good and not that progressive, their 2 next albums are much better and more complex) Grobschnitt - Rockpommel's Land
Edited by Modrigue - March 31 2016 at 06:16
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Rednight
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Posted: March 31 2016 at 05:21 |
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Huge fan, but never got many others' reverence for VDGG's Godbluff. Just a jazzed up version and nothing more.
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