Was prog actually popular in the 70s?? |
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cstack3
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 01:23 | ||||||||
The Mars Volta was an American progressive rock band from El Paso, Texas, formed in 2001.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 05:25 | ||||||||
Wasn't particularly popular save for a select few bands.
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Dean
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 07:21 | ||||||||
Grunge wasn't popular save for a few select bands, Punk wasn't popular save for a few select bands, Glam wasn't popular save for a few select bands, Brit Pop wasn't popular save for a few select bands, Pscyh Pop wasn't popular save for a few select bands... when you look at the vast number of classical composers who ever composed a symphony and then look at those that most people can actually name you could even say that Classical Music wasn't popular save for a few select composers ("We asked 100 people to name a Classical Baroque composer, our survey said: Bach.... erm.... ah.... and... erm... Mozart? err... I mean Vivaldi?" )
...I'm beinging to wonder what it is you guys actually think constitutes "popularity".
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What?
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CPicard
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 07:40 | ||||||||
Over 100 million records sold and songs turned into memes, I guess. That, or they just want to believe being an opressed cultural minority. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 07:45 | ||||||||
Well exactly. You finished my point.
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cstack3
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 16:46 | ||||||||
In terms of the 1970's era, I'd define that as regular or repeated airplay on "radio" (how passe!) and appearances on popular music TV shows and eventually video programming such as MTV. Bands that meet my definition include Yes, ELP, Flash, Focus, Mahavishnu Orchestra, King Crimson, Genesis, and several others. Prog was pretty much everywhere from 1971 until disco came along. Interestingly, several bands were popular on the TV circuit. I used to see Mahavishnu Orchestra regularly on "Don Kirschner's Rock Concert" show in the States, and Genesis & King Crimson appeared on the popular "Midnight Special." Prog acts were often interspersed with pop music acts (Bee Gees introduced KC on "Midnight Special"!), soul etc. Disco seemed to spell the beginning of the end for prog, and punk really put the hammer down. i think folks wanted to get up and dance vs. sit around in a dark, smoke-filled room and listen to Bob Fripp etc. Here, listen to the Bee Gees give a rather bizarre welcome to KC on Midnight Special! Edited by cstack3 - August 15 2013 at 16:46 |
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silverpot
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 17:14 | ||||||||
I think that bizarre welcome is rather symptomatic for the age. A smart ass guy is trying to be funny, but has no idea about
the artist or his/her music. |
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 18:37 | ||||||||
The BeeGees can eat a big one as far as I'm concerned. The members of Kansas have more talent in their pinky-fingers then the Beegee's entire being. Just my opinion. Hope I didn't offend any disco lovers lol
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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CPicard
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 18:41 | ||||||||
THE BEE GEES WERE NOT DISC, FOR HELL'S SAKE!!!
They played Urban Modern R'n'B. |
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silverpot
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 19:18 | ||||||||
Now now, I bet Kansas would sacrifice all of their fingers in exchange for BeeGees' talent to create good melodies. I'm not a disco lover in particular but I recognize a good song when I hear one and Massachusets and To Love Somebody are good examples of the genre. |
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 21:15 | ||||||||
Oh, that "Stayin' Alive" and really ruined the Bee Gees reputation. Though I'm sure they apreciate the loads of $$$ and fame that song gave them, I have read they or some of them weren't particularly happy about ending up labeled as disco and recognized for that song, because that's not what they were all about, it was just one short phase of their career. I guess it's something similar to Yes with "Owner of a Lonely Heart" and Pink Floyd with "Another Brick in the Wall 2". |
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ProcolWho?
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 23:02 | ||||||||
I Started A Joke
one of the signature songs of the late 60's The disco stuff blew, like all disco. |
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 15 2013 at 23:33 | ||||||||
Illinois, Indiana, what's the difference? It's a far away state in the Midwest that starts with I
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cstack3
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 01:11 | ||||||||
Could you turn down your Nirvana 8-track? I can't hear you.....
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 01:14 | ||||||||
That's not Nirvana, it's Hole
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richardh
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Posted: August 16 2013 at 03:01 | ||||||||
I think of all prog bands as 'cult bands' its just that some managed their affairs better than others and were able to take their chance when it presented itself. If Pink Floyd hadn't made Dark Side Of The Moon then someone else would have I reckon. It now seems almost an obvious idea but it was Waters and co that thought of it first. Other bands like VDGG and Gentle Giant were content to stay true to themselves. Camel are an interesting case as they sold a fair number of albums playing in my eyes a mellow brand of prog.Nice but hardly challenging. They found a middle way between commercialism and artistic integrity.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 10:17 | ||||||||
Tarkus was the number one selling album in the UK 1971 so why is the question even being asked? Of course it was popular, whether any particular genre of music deserves to hold centre stage of the zeitgeist is another matter.....
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cstack3
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 12:51 | ||||||||
Well, that's all right then! I am secretly a grunge fan, and a big admirer of Kim Thayill of Soundgarden! We play the same model six-string electric guitar (Guild S-100). Some grunge was better than others - I never much liked Nirvana, but Pearl Jam had some good stuff. I wish the energy of Seattle grunge had collided with prog!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 14:40 | ||||||||
I'm with you...Nirvana never clicked for me, though I always liked Pearl Jam's "Ten" and the first three Hole albums - though I'm not sure whether they're considered grunge, alternative, or riot grrrrrl
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moshkito
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Posted: August 17 2013 at 17:32 | ||||||||
Hi,
It's just sad to see all this trashing going around ... music was no more, or less, popular NOW, than it was THEN, or vice versa!
It was about the same!
And if you think that some of these bands, did not sell, or were not, it was because you had your head in the sand, and were living in Podunk, Moon House, or Peeweeneedles in Mars Land.
The lack of appreciation or respect for a time and place ... people were not stupid!
Half the folks in PA wouldn't have bothered! Edited by moshkito - August 17 2013 at 17:39 |
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