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siLLy puPPy
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I was always under the impression that Henry Cow was quite unpopular during the day and only in the following decades became the classic prog champions of avant-prog.
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As far as popular acts go that symbolize the end of the prog scene, i'd agree with ANIMALS.
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richardh
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agreed
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Hercules
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Animals as it's the only album on the list that is anywhere near great, and everything Floyd did after it was either awful (The Wall, The Final Cut) to OK (The Division Bell, AMLOR).
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Hercules
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They were. I remember someone bringing Western Culture into my room shortly after its release when I had some friends round and we stuck it on. The general opinion was "what the hell is this sh*te?". They're a band you either get, or don't get. I don't.
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The Dark Elf
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Songs from the Wood was released a month after Animals. So no vote here, as the choices are fewer than should be.
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verslibre
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YEAH!! Jethro Tull's Stormwatch isn't on the list, either...
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verslibre
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That's a hardline stance if I've ever seen one. Not a fan of Red, I take it?
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The Anders
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Of the albums in this list, Duke was the last to be released, in 1980. Ergo the answer must be Duke.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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No, there were some after that imo such as: Camel -nude (81) Yes - Drama (80) Happy the Man- Crafty Hands (78)(their first proper album was in 77) Rush-Permanent Waves(80), Moving Pictures(81) UK- same (78), Danger Money(79) Genesis- Duke(80)(well, it's about half prog anyway) Kansas - Monolith(79) (about the same as above) Those are just some of the more well known ones. Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - May 22 2020 at 11:57 |
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verslibre
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Camel was past their prime at that point (and I like Stationary Traveler better). Monolith was the first Kansas album to disappoint. It's definitely a step down when you compare it to what came before. If we can't include Tull's A (which I wouldn't, and it was meant to be Ian solo), I wouldn't include Duke.
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Scorpius
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Close between Red and Animals but gotta go with Floyd this time. If only my copy of Red on vinyl wasn't a misprint with the A side printed on both sides!
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verslibre
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You can replace that. |
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Well, you could say anything after Moonmadness was past Camel's prime just like you can say anything after CTTE was past Yes's prime. For Genesis it's a bit more hazy but maybe anything after PG left.
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Sounds like the kind of thing that could bring a pretty penny from a collector. Like vintage baseball card misprints.
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Rick1
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Interesting to see your contributions and I thank you. I have documented my non-inclusion of both Tull and UK on earlier posts. I had thought of Camel but their later albums vacillated a lot. In retrospect, the recruitment of Kit Watkins was inspired so I could have gone with 'I Can See Your House From Here'.
Dear old Henry Cow - as prog fell about our ears, I was a huge Henry Cow fan along with ELP, Genesis, etc. Their problem was being disowned by their record label (familiar story). Apart from the Lindsay Cooper tribute concerts in 2014 they have never had a reunion. Total respect for that.
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Camel's Rain Dances is fantastic. I far prefer it to Moonmadness, just like I prefer Relayer to CTTE. Maybe our concept of prime is a little different, i.e. highest rated albums vs. a band firing on all cylinders. This is no doubt heresy to some or many, but I like Genesis' albums immediately following PG's departure the best. |
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Scorpius
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I actually did a little bit of digging around on discogs after I saw your comment, and I was able to confirm that the pressing I have is an official KC re-release from 2013 that was miss-pressed to have two A sides. No chance I could return this to the store I bought it from originally but are there places online where people would be interested in such a thing? Might be a stupid question but I've never looked into selling vinyl online, especially when it's a copy of an album that can't even be listened to all the way through.
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Man With Hat
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I'm going to vote for the Cow, but there are several great albums here.
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Not considering Tull a prog act is very odd. I'm not a massive fan but they were hardcore prog for a longer time than many more so called prog acts. UK as a 'project'? Well that excludes King Crimson as well imo. In the end I voted for Animals because PF were unusual in that they became more complex at a time when the opposite was happening. Animals is the most important late entry but UK were still flying the prog banner when most had given up and gone home. There just aren't enough albums in the world with Eddie Jobson playing on them.
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