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JrKASperov
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 11:15 |
Then you've missed my point. Which was that Keith exclusively plays on the foreground, and dares not relinquish his position where Rick does. Rick however, makes his parts even more impressive when he dóes step to the foreground!
ELP is NOT the greatest progband. They are great though. 
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threefates
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 13:58 |
But you're missing the point...
There were five members in Yes... and Rick gave up the spotlight mostly to John Anderson's voice and Steve Howe who mostly played in the foreground.
With ELP... Keith was the main instrument most times... the only thing that overshadowed Keith's instrument.. was Greg's voice.
What??? Who told you ELP was not the greatest progband?? Off with their heads! 
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Easy Livin
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Joined: February 21 2004
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 14:55 |
I guess keyboard players fall into two broad categories:
Virtuoso players who perhaps crave the limelight, and who's solos are frequent and often lengthy. I'd include Wakeman, Emerson, Bodin, Vangelis, etc. in this category.
Players who create layers and atmospheres for the rest of the band to develop. I'd include Banks, Moraz, Pinder, Hensley etc. in this category.
Clearly there will be a fair bit of crossing over between the two, and players in either category may be more technically gifted than others.
My personal vote would go to Clive Nolan (Arena, Pendragon etc.), who for me manages to cover both categories better than anyone else. I'd readily acknowledge that he's probably not the "best" if it came to a "I can do something you can't do" contest, but what he does works for me.
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Menswear
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Joined: June 02 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 15:16 |
Now now...here's my fav and the album where I think they really shine
Tony Banks (forgotten master, no 1 all-star) ---Nursery Cryme
Keith Emerson (overrated, but still flamboyant)---Brain Salad Surgery
Kerry Minnear (competent and constant in quality)---Acquiring the taste
Jurgen Fritz (as good as Emerson, if not better?)---Double Dimple
Rick Van Der Linden (genius, but like every prodigee...overlooked)---Birds
Overall: TONY BANKS 
One day people will understand how competent and intelligently he played.
He's the motor of Genesis. A quiet one, but when he speaks, it's never for nothing.
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 15:52 |
Anyone who doesn't think Keith Emerson is a mighty talent will get a well earned clip round the ear from me!
The 'also rans':
Rick Wakeman (tried hard to be Keith Emerson but never quite made it,bless him)
Francis Monkman (great talent,unfairly overlooked)
Eddie Jobson (has done both prog and 'new age' really well)
Vangelis (another fantastic talent although his prog credentials may be a little 'fuzzy')
Tony Banks (great composer and pianist/organist but what about those synths,then Tony?)
Kerry Minnear (maybe the only serious challenger to Keith Emerson as a 'multi keyboardist')
Martin Orford (great player and composer)
Par Lindh (very original stylist.Manages not to be an 'Emerson clone' despite his obvious reverence for said musician)
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The Prognaut
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Joined: April 14 2004
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 19:56 |
- Pär Lindh
- Rick Wright
- Stephen Geysens
- Lalo Huber
- Tomas Jonson
- Anna Sofi Dahlberg
- Pete Bardens
- Gianni Nocenzi
- Neil Morse
- Halvard Haugerud...
and many more! 
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break the circle
reset my head
wake the sleepwalker
and i'll wake the dead
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dropForge
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Joined: April 24 2004
Location: United States
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 20:41 |
Rick Wakeman (tried hard to be Keith Emerson but never quite made it,bless him) |
Rick's never tried to be anybody but himself. Rick's one of the very best, and while I do prefer Keith for piano (though Rick's output is far more prolific), I prefer Rick for Minimoog/synths action. Both guys are great on clavinet, but concerning the incredible "Ice Run" from White Rock, I'd give the nod to Rick. And Rick's also got the edge when it comes to speed (though speed isn't what I really listen to keyboardists for...guys like Vitalij Kuprij make me sick...speed w/o taste).
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dropForge
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 20:44 |
Then you've missed my point. Which was that Keith exclusively plays on the foreground, and dares not relinquish his position where Rick does. Rick however, makes his parts even more impressive when he dóes step to the foreground! |
There were five members in Yes... and Rick gave up the spotlight mostly to John Anderson's voice and Steve Howe who mostly played in the foreground. |
Sperov's just trying to remark about how Rick excelled as both an accompanist and soloist. The thing about Rick, though, is that even when Howe was ripping a solo or Jon was singing, or Chris was doing some incredible bass run, his parts were never snuffed out. And that's an achievement in itself, considering the unbelievable caliber of talent in a group like Yes.
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threefates
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Posted: August 12 2004 at 23:01 |
I felt the same way about Tony Kaye, since he was the main reason I came to love Yes in the beginning... Unlike most, my favorite song on "The Yes Album" was "A Venture"...that beginning would suck me in every time.
So it took me a while to get use to Rick Wakeman, and even longer to Patrick Moraz... but they both grew on me after awhile.
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greenback
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Joined: August 14 2004
Location: Canada
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Posted: August 14 2004 at 22:12 |
Eddie Jobson (by far!)
Kit Watkins
Martin Orford
Rick Wakeman
Jurgen Fritz
Keith Emerson
Richard Harvey
John Tout
Mark Kelly
Vittorio Nocenzi
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