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Cesar Inca
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 07:52 |
4 1/2 stars for 'Discipline'; 4 stars for 'Three of a Perfect Pair'; 3 stars for 'Beat'.
Regards.
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sigod
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 09:25 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
4 1/2 stars for 'Discipline'; 4 stars for 'Three of a Perfect Pair'; 3 stars for 'Beat'.
Regards.
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I think that's a fair summation .
Being subjective however I love 'em all to bits.
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 12:08 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
4 1/2 stars for 'Discipline'; 4 stars for 'Three of a Perfect Pair'; 3 stars for 'Beat'.
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I have to agree. Discipline raise the bar that Beat and Three didn't achieve, but all are strong albums of creative music that stood head and shoulders above the music being played at the time. For me, Beat was too much about Belew's singing, which can be little taking in too much wasabe in one bite. I thought Sartori in Tangier was the best track on Beat simply because it is an instrumental.
However, I would suggest to any newbies to also snatch up Adrian Belew's "Desire Caught by the Tail" as a companion piece. It's my favorite Belew solo effort. Don't forget the Bears, either. Terrific!
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Eddy
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 12:13 |
i like disipline more then i like in the court. the first debut sound lanky
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tuxon
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Posted: December 22 2004 at 12:18 |
I agree the second debut was far more interesting.
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Emperor
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 05:08 |
Well, my favorite KC's album is IN THE COURT, but it doesen't mean that I'm less fond of post-Red Crimson :-)
At 1st I also was surprised that 81 and other albums were absolutely not similar to ITCOTKC or Lizard or Red. I was disappointed. But after I’ve got THRaK, I’ve got into all those 80s albums too! The “Skeleton” of the band (Fripp) has remained the same, only the “Surface” was changed!
I also need to admit the definite influence of Brian Eno (and even maybe of Talking Heads!) to KC of 80s. But anyway they always were original and clever Prog-Grands as they are! At least they practically has avoided of that generic "all-things-occupied" sound of 80s...
Hasn't somebody listened KC’s ProjeKCts and TraKaTTaK, BTW?
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Jim Garten
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 07:13 |
danbo wrote:
However, I would suggest to any newbies to also snatch up Adrian Belew's "Desire Caught by the Tail" as a companion piece. It's my favorite Belew solo effort. Don't forget the Bears, either. Terrific! | As far as Belew's solos go, I'd plump either for 'Lone Rhino' or 'Twang Bar King' (I believe these are fairly contemporary to 'Discipline' & 'Beat'). 'Desire...' is also a damned fine album, though.
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sigod
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Posted: December 23 2004 at 07:51 |
Jim Garten wrote:
danbo wrote:
However, I would suggest to any newbies to also snatch up Adrian Belew's "Desire Caught by the Tail" as a companion piece. It's my favorite Belew solo effort. Don't forget the Bears, either. Terrific! |
As far as Belew's solos go, I'd plump either for 'Lone Rhino' or 'Twang Bar King' (I believe these are fairly contemporary to 'Discipline' & 'Beat').
'Desire...' is also a damned fine album, though. |
The Bears and the Belew solo stuff are indeed excellent.
I met up with a guy called Ross Rice recently who used to be the singer/writer for a Memphis based band called 'Human Radio' who has worked with Belew and he says that Adrian was an astoundingly talented guy who had a real heart. It was his belief that Belew is the perfect foil for Fripp in that the two balance each other's talents and temperaments. Ross saw the two talking and felt that there was a genuine affection between Belew & Fripp that went beyond the music. In short, they were friends.
Brings a tear to my eye....
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision. - Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
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kniprekcor
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Posted: December 27 2004 at 09:30 |
king crimson's Belew era is better i think and it's defined by the incredible trilogy of the crimson, blue and yellow albums masterpieces of a new-styled prog
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Matt0001
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Posted: December 27 2004 at 18:53 |
Compared to the 80s output of the other members of the Big 3--Yes and
Genesis--King Crimson trully maintained the "progressive" nature of
their music. The Discipline era albums work as a
bridge between prog and 80s New Wave. While Yes and Genesis in the 80s
tried to turn themselves into pop superstars, Fripp prefered to stay in
musical conversation with the underground sounds of the time.
Television's Marquee Moon and Discipline can be listened to in
succession and it makes sense. You can't make the same leap with ABACAB.
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ShrinkingViolet
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Posted: December 27 2004 at 19:01 |
i would say the Belew era was best but i can't, simply because i think all stages are wonderful...you see them evolve each time into something better...Three of a perfect pair is one of ma faves though
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