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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 13:09
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:


OK, but how is the drum on this one?
in another world, remember Michael Shrieve is back and he is one of the 5 best in Rock in Roll worldwide. the percussion is unbelievable. 3 out of 6 members are percussionists, going at it full steam, you should get the picture.
 
Garcia is the best album Jerry ever released from solos to collabs to Grateful Dead. THE BEST!Shocked
 
Everything he ever did came from this session............
 
Personnel: Jerry Garcia (vocals, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, pedal steel guitar, piano, organ, bass guitar); Bill Kreutzmann (drums).
 
Ive heard them all, many times, many places, many moods


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 13:29
 

Garcia review

The self-titled CD Jerry Garcia came out in 1972 and is more of a follow up to the Grateful Dead’s American Beauty album than a Jerry Garcia Band release. Only two of songs were performed by the Jerry Garcia Band on a regular basis, “Deal” and “Sugaree.” Of those two, “Sugaree” was dropped from the concert rotation, and “Deal” was performed by both Jerry Garcia and the Grateful Dead. Six of the songs from this CD were regular concert rotations in the Grateful Dead’s repertoire. 

The compositions on Garcia show the direction that the Grateful Dead was moving in, that is, from country style towards a rock tone, and very strong in melody. Many of the songs have pedal steel guitar solos showing his vast music diversity - an offshoot of American Beauty and Garcia’s New Riders of the Purple Sage stint in 1970 – ’71.  Jerry Garcia played all the instruments but drums. While he did a competent job he is no Phil Lesh and his piano parts are able to add melody, but not much more. 

This CD has outstanding song writing with many of the songs becoming fan favorites such as the classic “Bird Song,” the under-played beautiful love song “To Lay Me Down,” the cheerful “The Wheel” to name a few. Jerry Garcia’s first solo disc is a classic. by Barry Small © 
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Garcia Bonus Material

The bonus tracks from Garcia offer a rare glimpse at the creative process of a musical genius constructing songs and is priceless. This album was basically recorded with acoustic guitar and drums with the other sections overdubbed. 

First up, "Sugaree" offers a gorgeous bare acoustic guitar and drums rendition of the classic. There are two versions of "The Wheel" that are completely different The first highlights pedal steel experimentation while the latter offers an instrumental piano based workout. Certainly neither is radio ready, but they are not supposed to be. They sure sound good to me.

The "Late For Supper / Spidergawd / Eep Hour" segment doesn't delve into "To Lay Me Down" like the final version, but it interesting to hear its framework. 

Does anyone else hear inferences of "Bertha" in "Study For The Wheel?"

"Study For “Eep Hour" shows Garcia's mastery of controlling dynamics where he changes moods on a dime. The conclusion sounds a bit like "Death Don't Have No Mercy,"  or if you use your imagination "The Other One" > "Stella Blue." All fun things in the key of E.

Overall, The original Garcia album has always been a classic and to hear glimpses of the creation of it is required listening. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 13:32
Jerry Garcia's first solo venture is partially a testament to the creative surge that the Garcia/Robert Hunter songwriting team experienced at the dawn of the 1970s. Along with such seminal Grateful Dead albums as WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, AMERICAN BEAUTY, and EUROPE '72, it is one in a series of explorations of American musical traditions draped in the colors forecast by JOHN WESLEY HARDING-era Bob Dylan. But this record also included modernist, outer-space moments for all of those concerned that Garcia had turned his back on his music's innovational trips.

Having veered away from the mystical compositions they helped create for the late-'60s Dead, Garcia and Hunter began focusing on the timeless aspects of Americana, building on existing foundations. This meant electrifying old country and folk textures until they crackled with the possibility of epiphany. "Deal," a blistering, steel-guitar-propelled tale that preaches the wisdom of caution, centers around a refrain popularized by Bill Monroe, and the strutting, mid-tempo "Sugaree" is loosely based on an Elizabeth Cotten song ("Shake Sugaree"). By comparison, GARCIA's weird sides are odd transmissions into free musical space. "Late for Supper," "Spidergawd," and "Eep Hour" are concoctions full of loops, sound effects, and Garcia's fragmented piano playing, hinting at the spacey electronic music the Dead would soon tackle.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:37
 
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          I have "Stephen Stills", "2", and "Manassas", and enjoy parts of all three.  I'd say "Manassas" has the edge since it's a double album containing more good songs than the other two Stills albums.
 
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          I have "Garcia", and enjoy most of it.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 11:29
If you can find it, look out for Still's Live album (I've not seen any hint of the CD this side of the Atlantic) - the acoustic side has a great reading of Robert Johnson's Crossroads (owes nothing to the perennial Clapton arrangement many have imitated), neatly seguing into Chuck Berry's Can't Catch Me. In fact I think Steve Stills is best playing acoustic - the two or three of recorded versions of Suite Judy Blues Eyes providing other prime examples. At one time the first two Steve Still solo albums were available as a two for one set on vinyl. I also have a sneaking regard for the country rock oriented album he did with Neil Young Long May You Run
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 11:32


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"Jerry Garcia's first solo venture is partially a testament to the creative surge that the Garcia/Robert Hunter songwriting team experienced at the dawn of the 1970s. Along with such seminal Grateful Dead albums as WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, AMERICAN BEAUTY, and EUROPE '72, it is one in a series of explorations of American musical traditions draped in the colors forecast by JOHN WESLEY HARDING-era Bob Dylan"

This is not my fav Dead period, Bryan, i prefer before.

Is it sometimes close to "Zabriskie point" acoustic material?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 11:55
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:



I bought Grace Slick "Manhole" and it's atrocious.
 
 
you're kidding right?Confused
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 14:36


Not really!!
Do you like it?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2006 at 16:46
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:



"Jerry Garcia's first solo venture is partially a testament to the creative surge that the Garcia/Robert Hunter songwriting team experienced at the dawn of the 1970s. Along with such seminal Grateful Dead albums as WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, AMERICAN BEAUTY, and EUROPE '72, it is one in a series of explorations of American musical traditions draped in the colors forecast by JOHN WESLEY HARDING-era Bob Dylan"

This is not my fav Dead period, Bryan, i prefer before.

Is it sometimes close to "Zabriskie point" acoustic material?

 
I knew when I copied that review that you would needle that paragraph, thats not where the genius is at, it is so original the reviewer is looking for ground to explain the time period.  
your picking at it, I would not compare it with Workingmans or Beauty, it is a blend of early and late and Garcia at his best! it has more to do with french band Travelling's debut and is the most progressive and spacey mixed with melodic sensibility that he ever got. CSN, Allman Bros and the Band are where its at on this one. Not as Americana and more space than this review allows. 6 of the songs went on to be staples of the Deads live shows for many, many years. this is the creative peak and the blend actually worked for once.
 
if that dont convince you then I give up!LOL
 
 
BETTER THAN ANY GRATEFUL DEAD STUDIO RELEASE, imo!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 05:16
Saw a copy of the Still Live CD at a used shop here in Seoul, went back the next day to pick it up and it had vanished....and NOBODY ever goes in this shop.  I've stashed stuff and come back a month later and found nothing moved.  It's still a source of frustration.....lesson learned:  while you see a chance, take it!
 
I'd agree that Still is frustrating.  Outside of the first LP and the Manasas album, there isn't a single Stills album worth owning.  There is a compilation out there, I forget the title, that collects all the best cuts from his post-Manasas albums and includes a few live/unreleased cuts. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 05:18


I just bought CSN debut HDCD remaster with bonus!
    (recent 2006 release)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 05:23
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:



Not really!!
Do you like it?
 
Give it another try, seriously
 
 
You'll be happy to know you have not missed out on something
 
Only the bluesy Big Mama Thorpe-like song is sub-par.
 
I'd give it almost a four star if it was on this site.
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Hmmm...too late! I sell it back this morning to buy
-among others- Third japanese DSD master, a compilation of acid british folk 68-74 ("Gather in the mushrooms"), and first CSN new remaster with bonus.

Sean, you MUST run to buy David Crosby/ If only i could remember my name (see thread), an absolute masterpiece gathering all the cream of the west coast!!!

Fantastic sound moreover! The cherry on the cake!






    

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 05:40
Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

"Jerry Garcia's first solo venture is partially a testament to the creative surge that the Garcia/Robert Hunter songwriting team experienced at the dawn of the 1970s. Along with such seminal Grateful Dead albums as WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, AMERICAN BEAUTY, and EUROPE '72, it is one in a series of explorations of American musical traditions draped in the colors forecast by JOHN WESLEY HARDING-era Bob Dylan" This is not my fav Dead period, Bryan, i prefer before. Is it sometimes close to "Zabriskie point" acoustic material?

 

I knew when I copied that review that you would needle that paragraph, thats not where the genius is at, it is so original the reviewer is looking for ground to explain the time period.  

your picking at it, I would not compare it with Workingmans or Beauty, it is a blend of early and late and Garcia at his best! it has more to do with french band Travelling's debut and is the most progressive and spacey mixed with melodic sensibility that he ever got. CSN, Allman Bros and the Band are where its at on this one. Not as Americana and more space than this review allows. 6 of the songs went on to be staples of the Deads live shows for many, many years. this is the creative peak and the blend actually worked for once.

 

if that dont convince you then I give up![IMG]height=17 alt=LOL src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

 

 

BETTER THAN ANY GRATEFUL DEAD STUDIO RELEASE, imo!


I trust you, this Garcia must be very good!


    
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 06:37
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Hmmm...too late! I sell it back this morning to buy
-among others- Third japanese DSD master, a compilation of acid british folk 68-74 ("Gather in the mushrooms"), and first CSN new remaster with bonus.

Sean, you MUST run to buy David Crosby/ If only i could remember my name (see thread), an absolute masterpiece gathering all the cream of the west coast!!!

Fantastic sound moreover! The cherry on the cake!






    
 
 
you'll be soooooooorryyyyyyyyyy to part with Manhole
 
I am not a major fan of that softrock/country rock of early 70's ala CSN&Y
 
But I will try that Crosby album sometime soon. He wrote a few songs with Jefferson Airplane members, too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 07:05
Olivier,
you should check out too 'Buffalo Springfield' one of the early Westcoast Folk Rock bands including Stephen Stills and Neil Young. They released 2 records and one with leftovers between 1966-1968. Great band!
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Yes, i know little, but need to get more into.

Which is the best one, according to you?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2006 at 07:13
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

Hmmm...too late! I sell it back this morning to buy -among others- Third japanese DSD master, a compilation of acid british folk 68-74 ("Gather in the mushrooms"), and first CSN new remaster with bonus. Sean, you MUST run to buy David Crosby/ If only i could remember my name (see thread), an absolute masterpiece gathering all the cream of the west coast!!! Fantastic sound moreover! The cherry on the cake!     

 

 

you'll be soooooooorryyyyyyyyyy to part with Manhole

 

I am not a major fan of that softrock/country rock of early 70's ala CSN&Y

 

But I will try that Crosby album sometime soon. He wrote a few songs with Jefferson Airplane members, too.

    

It's beyond the best CSN and far more prog and sophisticated.

There's the Jefferson guitarist on it, and Grace Slick on background vocals, among many others

A real gem!



Allmusic:

"Review by Stanton Swihart
David Crosby's debut solo album, If I Could Only Remember My Name is a one-shot wonder of dreamy but ominous California ambience. The songs range from brief snapshots of inspiration (the angelic chorale-vocal showcase on "Orleans" and the a cappella closer, "I'd Swear There Was Somebody Here") to the full-blown, rambling western epic "Cowboy Movie," and there are absolutely no false notes struck or missteps taken. No one before or since has gotten as much mileage out of a wordless vocal as Crosby does on "Tamalpais High (At About 3)" and "Song With No Words (Tree With No Leaves)," and because the music is so relaxed, each song turns into its own panoramic vista. Those who don't go for trippy Aquarian sentiment, however, may be slightly put off by the obscure, cosmic storytelling of the gorgeous "Laughing" or the ambiguous (but pointed) social questioning of "What Are Their Names," but in actuality it is an incredibly focused album. Even when a song as pretty as "Traction in the Rain" shimmers with its picked guitars and autoharp, the album is coated in a distinct, persistent menace that is impossible to shake. It is a shame that Crosby would continue to descend throughout the remainder of the decade and the beginning of the next into aimless drug addiction, and that he would not issue another solo album until 18 years later. As it is, If I Could Only Remember My Name is a shambolic masterpiece, meandering but transcendentally so, full of frayed threads. Not only is it among the finest splinter albums out of the CSNY diaspora, it is one of the defining moments of hungover spirituality from the era. "








    

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Yes, i know little, but need to get more into.

Which is the best one, according to you?

 
the second one, not very original title, but a great record 'BS Again'.
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