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Certif1ed
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 08 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 7559 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 08:13 | |
I'm fairly keen () on their output with Fish providing the vocals - but I find everything after "Misplaced Childhood" somewhat unremarkable in the Prog Rock canon.
A lot of nice stuff, but unremarkable, nevertheless. Edited by Certif1ed - January 08 2007 at 08:14 |
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KeyserSoze
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 09 2005 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 228 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 08:24 | |
I don't really think they are underrated. Rather I think they are overrated and I don't like them except the first three albums with Fish.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 08:26 | |
Conversely, I think the best thing they did with the Piscean fellow was Clutching At Straws. |
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bhikkhu
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 08:31 | |
I guess it has been a while since we've had a Marillion topic. We actually have discussed them at length. As was said before, E-Dub is one of their biggest champions (especially Hogarth era). I am a Fish fan. I love all of those albums. "Script" was a welcome surprise in 1983. I even had the honor of seeing them perform "Misplaced Childhood" in Grand Rapids Michigan. Although I have tried, I still don't care much for the Hogarth stuff. It seems a little sanitized to me. |
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Chicapah
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 14 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8238 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 08:32 | |
I plan to give them a shot this year. Never have heard more than a sample but I'm going to order "Misplaced Childhood" soon.
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Masque
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 01 2006 Status: Offline Points: 808 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 09:10 | |
About twenty three years ago I wondered into a record store , there was this album with a jester on the cover dripping shades of green with a violin in his hand. I though this looks strangely weird in a good way I wonder what its about ??? so I purchased it without even hearing it (in prog we must gamble to find what is gold), the album was entitled Script for a jesters tear . On first impressions to my 16 year old mind I thought ... hey this is kinda trippy and very odd, but I was getting into some King Crimson back then so I accepted strange musical creativity, also I hadn`t heard Gabriel`s Genesis so I actually thought Marillion were totally original. So anyway after about ten more plays I started to form a relationship with script and with the charismatic theatrical Fish who I thought was kinda like a social rebel and I dug that ! well Marillion and me kinda gelled, I would visit the Record store look for Kansas first , then head for the M section for Marillion for many years they provided me with vision artistically till one sad day I went to the store and there was a CD called seasons end and I found out that Fish had dumped Marillion because lets face it Fish was Marillion .... Marillion for me died from that point on , I tried to like them the same but I can`t its just not the same poetically or creatively after Fish left ... "one more experience one more entry in a diary self penned "
Fish was Marillion ! Edited by Masque - January 08 2007 at 10:48 |
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E-Dub
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 10:04 | |
Eh, I think that statement would be true if they would've folded after losing such an integral member. The fact that they've lasted 17 years, created 9 studio albums, and the last one so critically acclaimed that some (if not most) consider it to be a masterpiece exposes the 'Fish was Marillion' statement to have more holes than Bonnie and Clyde the day they were ambushed in Louisiana.
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Tristan Mulders
Prog Reviewer Joined: September 28 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1723 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 10:19 | |
And since when have Marillion released 'A Change of Seasons'?? Either you're talking about some bootleg or you got your info mixed up
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E-Dub
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 10:21 | |
Could be mixing up Seasons End with DT's A Change Of Seasons.
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Masque
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 01 2006 Status: Offline Points: 808 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 10:47 | |
Its all good clean fun chaps both marillions are good
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E-Dub
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:04 | |
I know, Masque. Your post was very respectful. I wasn't torqued at all. E |
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red.sector_a
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 31 2006 Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:43 | |
i love both eras, but im a little more partial to the H era. His voice intrigues me more than Fish's does.
although the first time i heard Misplaced Childhood, i knew i could put that album in the small group of "perfect" albums, in my collection. nothing on that album is flawed. it was also my first introduction into the band. but Brave and Marbles are my favorite records along with MC and SFAJT. I freakin' love this band! |
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Prog-jester
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 05 2005 Location: Love Beach Status: Offline Points: 5807 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 11:59 | |
Awfully underrated one from them - FUGAZI. Simply a masterpiece,VERY close to MC in my book (3rd place after Script and MC),while CaS is awfully terrific album - I use to hate it, but now I would say I just don't like it THAT much
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E-Dub
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 12:05 | |
Awesome. Join me along with Stonebeard, Cristi, and Freak in spreading the gospel. E iTunes: "Incubus" from Marillion's Fugazi |
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red.sector_a
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 31 2006 Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 14:46 | |
i would be a proud member. we should start a clan. just for the H- era. lol |
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piltdown man
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 30 2006 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 107 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 14:46 | |
I´ve been a big fan since Script... They had something special that appealed to me being about 18 who recently had discovered The Wall, Tubular Bells and Selling England. Script had a sparkle and something new yet something of the old masterpieces. Fish was, and still is, the perfect front figure and a real entertainer. Not the best singer but with a theatrical style I liked then and as a lyricist one of the best. Seeing them live was something extraordinary.
When it was a fact that Fish had left the Marillios I lost them for a while, still buying the albums but it just didn´t feel the same. Then after a couple of years it all changed and I wish I knew which song or album did it but I can´t. One day I just discovered that I prefer the Hogarth-era today. Their albums keeps getting better, they´re trying new things and sounds yet keeping a unique sound. H is a fantastic singer and have really grown a text-writer as well.
They have a great website and provides us fans with loads of fun stuff to buy. I´m looking forward to "Something else"!
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spleenache
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Posted: January 08 2007 at 15:13 | |
I do not like themm at all.
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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 15:28 | |
Hehe... H era is very good. Doubts arise about their "prog" status from time to time, but it's still Good Music. |
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Freak
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 12 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 304 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 16:13 | |
Here comes the Marillion revolution! I unfortunately missed out on the couple months of intense Marillion discussion, so I wouldn't mind having a dedicated thread go on for a week or so. As you can tell from my name (best Marillion B-side ever!) and E-Dub's mention up there, I'm a great fan of both eras. I'll gladly defend the merit of h, but I love the Fish era as well.
Long live prog's greatest band (that's still performing at least...)!
I'm kind of curious, what are the Marillion fans opinions of Holidays In Eden? I consider that one their least brilliant album - not because it isn't proggy enough or anything, but it didn't contain anything memorable except for the stunning "The Party," but that one has more flair live. Maybe I ought to give it another spin...
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E-Dub
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 24 2006 Location: Elkhorn, WI Status: Offline Points: 7910 |
Posted: January 08 2007 at 16:43 | |
I, too, enjoy both eras. I listened to Fugazi this morning and just love that disc. It hardly ever gets mentioned alongside the first 4, but it's such a strong disc. "Incubus" is one of my favorite tunes, too. I enjoy Holidays In Eden for what it is. I think it was pretty apparent that the record company was leaning on them to produce a hit and to showcase the 'pretty boy' fronting their band. Still, it has some nice tunes on it. "Splintering Heart" is still a favorite and a great show opener. "Dry Land" sounds a bit dated even in the early 90's, but still an alright tune. I even like "Cover My Eyes" because of H's vocal performance. For what HiE lacked, they more than made up for it with the subsequent efforts in Brave and Afraid Of Sunlight. Those discs are just pure magic. E iTunes: "Dedication" from Pain Of Salvation's The Perfect Element |
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