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Poll Question: Which album least lived up to your expectations?
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Indeed, there's not much in it, but I use the 5 star scale, so I'd say:

Vortex - 4.8
Les Cycles de Thanatos - 4.7

Rounded up on the P.A. scale, that makes them both fives... although didn't I say Vortex was 4/5 in my review?  I cannot remember!
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I'd say UZED. A rating above 4.50 and the album has no tension outside of dissonance for the sake of dissonance. Reminds me of Sleepytime Gorrila Museum melodies without distortion and on an organ.
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Although I have the two first Present albums and I dont really find them interesting, I must vote for Heresie... an album I seem not to "get", for I see no masterpiece what so ever, just boring unison repetetive dark tones for 50 min...Confused
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Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

I'd say UZED. A rating above 4.50 and the album has no tension outside of dissonance for the sake of dissonance. Reminds me of Sleepytime Gorrila Museum melodies without distortion and on an organ.

Uh then thats the next album I need to get!Big%20smile
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Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

I haven't really liked the last three UZ albums.

Lapirella tasted 1313 and declared, "Why, this is far too sour!" Then, she nibbled on Implosion and remarked that it seemed far too sweet. But when she came to sample UZed, her verdict was that it was *just right*.

Or something ;P ze point being zat UZ had something good going in the late '80s and I listen to that side of them much more than Heresie.


Shouldn't that be Lapilocks? 

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Foregoing any anxiety over riding on the coattails of others, the success of Cacho's Genesis' and Yes' "most disappointing albums" threads led to this.


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I'm surprised Pnoom! also felt like i did when i first heard "Ceux DU Dehors". At the time i was going chronologically through their recordings and had heard that "Ceux Du Dehors" was the favourite UNIVERS ZERO album of quite a few people.I also maybe had too high expectations and felt it didn't measure up to "Herisie". As a matter of fact i liked the debut better than that one as well.It's still an excellent record.I also was blown away by VORTEX's recordings,especially the second one. I think "No 6" might be my least favourite PRESENT album with "Certitudes" and "High Infidelity" neck and neck for my number one.
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Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

edit: apologies for brusqueness, I've been off the fags for a month



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The closest thing to a disappointment with any of these are the vocals on the otherwise solid album Certitudes. Most of the time I rather they weren't there. But my expectations weren't that high. When I tried the later Present releases (starting with Certitudes) I was positively surprised with all of them, actually.
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Points: 1589 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 08:39
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by Yukorin Yukorin wrote:

edit: apologies for brusqueness, I've been off the fags for a month



I've been off for over five years, and I'm still angry and hateful towards everyone.

 
There are some benefits to quitting then
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I quit five years ago, but I started again.  Heck, I quit every day, at least when I'm sleeping, which isn't much.

I don't have the UZ album, but I've been listening to UZ's myspace's streaming mp3s of Univers Zero Live CLICK

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Points: 7168 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2008 at 18:44
While there isn't a bad album on that list, I voted for Heatwave. The relative dominance of keyboards and guitars over the strings and woodwinds that are such an integral part of UZ's sound is the major weakness I think - at times it strays rather a long way from the chamber prog sound that UZ pioneered and later returned to. 
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Points: 31663 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2008 at 18:31
Heatwave and Certitudes. Still good albums though but not nearly as good as Triskaidekaphobie, Ceux du Dehors or Les Cycles de Thanatos.
 
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Present's two first equals some of the best RIO/Avant you'll ever hear. CDD and Uzed are beyond brilliant as well, try to listen to them as soon as possibleTongue
 
 
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