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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 22:06
ye gods
I can't understand why you get annoyed at people disliking things ;P I never said anything about the quality of the music, that I didn't have other options, or that anything in my original post was anything other than my opinion alone, yet I get the trademark pedantic DBG treatment

everyone else: good posts ;P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 22:09
Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:


And I think modern rock (starting with grunge) is one of the worst things to happen to music.


Exactly!

As for classic rock/aor/blues based- rock, it's great stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 22:15
Debrewguy, Lappy was just giving a subjective opinion, whats you're problem? I think ACDC is one of the worst bands on the face of the planet, and they've made some of the most disgusting noise that could ever be considered music, but what are you going to do about? Argue? Go ahead, but it's all subjective opinion, Lappy's going through a phase where he dosent like rock, or hell even guitar, and he has a right to see who else is on the same boat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 22:51
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE TO f**kING ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 01:18
Prog rock, indie rock, and post-rock (which doesn't count as rock, really...) are the only rock things I listen to. I can't stand blues, rock 'n' roll, hard rock, soft rock, modern rock, or punk rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 02:04
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by KeleCableII KeleCableII wrote:

I grew up listening to classic rock and began to grow sick of it. The usually dumb lyrics, the obligatory guitar solos, the lack of interesting rhythm sections (with the exception of a few, of course)... it's just so boring to me.


prog is not exactly  immune from dumb lyrics... obligatory guitar solos  or the lack of interesting rhythm sections either LOL
Less prone to all of those, though.


no doubt.. in fact, I'd much rather hear something decent on MTV than bad prog, there's nothing worse than bad prog



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 02:15
I think I've realized I'm one of the most normal (least adventurous?) of the older members here. Having been here 3 years, I don't really care to dig that deep, except maybe a Neo band here or their if they strike me as good. I'm fine with my Iron Maiden, Cranberries, Smashing Pumpkins, Incubus, U2, Steve Vai, Satriani, Van Halen, Deep Purple, Robert Plant, Zeppelin, and on and on. Sometimes, I get bored of complex music and just wanna rock out or chill out (as tonight with the Cranberries). I'm the least weird of the weird.

I do dislike a lotta classic rock, though. Especially if it's a mediocre band playing in a blues scale.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 02:35
Given that Progressive Rock owes it's existence to Rock (however you want to define it), it seems a bit strange to rule it out.
 
Prog Rock isn't just about the up itself "experimental" or "avante-garde" aspects (and most of it just isn't either) - it has to rock too, or there's no point in it apart from self gratification.
 
AC/DC are and have always been one of my favourite bands - it doesn't matter about the notes they use or the chord progressions - that is not the point of rock (or blues), just as it's not the point of jazz, classical or any other form of music.
 
The entire point is what it communicates to you, and ruling out an entire "genre" just because of the way it's constructed smacks highly of prejudice and lack of taste.
 
As someone said earlier, there's practically nothing worse than bad prog - and there's nothing better than good ROCK.  Big%20smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 03:50
Born and raised on classic rock. Just recently I was exposed to prog.
Clapton(and all his forms) would be the most important to me, but Thin Lizzy, Deep Purple, Rush, Rainbow, etc.
 
I dont like all rock, but I came for the Rock and I stayed for the Prog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 04:45
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Sometimes, I get bored of complex music and just wanna rock out or chill out (as tonight with the Cranberries).

That's what 80s Genesis and Peter Gabriel are for me. :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 05:08


Some of you seem to try as hard as you can to misunderstand the topicstarter.

I have no problem with understanding someone with main progpreferances like Picchio Dal Pozzo, Wha-ha-ha, Art Zoyd, Art Bears, Magma etc. stating that classic, bluesy rock annoys him.

Although these bands are related to rock, most of the time they don't "rock".

Btw: Debrewguy; You seem to have stopped reading others posts properly before you reply.


Edited by Rocktopus - May 27 2008 at 05:08
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 05:35

I agree a lot with much of what Cert had to say on the matter, although I do have my difference. I did sorta like about 3 or 4 AC/DC songs, a few years ago maybe, but simply from them being overplayed I cannot stand to listen to them anymore. From the "classic" era, I guess all I'm really listening to from then is Black Sabbath and occasional The Hendrix Experience. Used to love Led Zep, but just grew weary of listening to them really. I still love my Iron Maiden and of course as a guitarist, Satriani and Vai as Stonebeard suggested (although the virtuosity they display is far from making them another "fashion accessory" type band).

I believe the whole "fashion accessory" AOR bands like Wolf Mother, Velvet Revolver, The Strokes etc, that kinda of music was great when it fresh and innovative in the 60s/70s, and there is no need to repeat it, music should evolve and the reason why I listen to more prog lately is because for the most part I see it as constantly evolving and moving forward.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 08:30
(edit. didn't make sense) 
 
I'll listen to everything and anything (have everything Betty Boo ever released. That and serious multiple copies of Klaus Wunderlich on vinyl). I got into prog through this root: post-punk, glue-sniffing, no-wave, Throbbing Gristle and Human League and Whitehouse and Cabaret Voltaire et al. Heard tons and tons of the sh!t when I was growing up thanks to the shedloads of local Afghan patchouli dirty hippies (a mates older brother beat the sh!t out of me for not liking Thick As A Brick)
 
But I really started to take a strong interest when I heard that Krautrock and Jazz were a part of prog. Regrets? I've had a few
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 10:16
Seems everyone is slightly distracted now, so I'll take the opportunity and own up to really liking "Sweet Home Alabama".

Not least because I don't get to hear it very often.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 11:35
Good rock ROCKS! Bad rock doesn't.
"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 11:48
Like some other people here I started with Rock. Growing up my Dad always listened to a lot of "classic rock"
and so did I. Admittedly I got into metal and such, but it's that classic rock that has stuck with me for all this time.
Like a lot of the prog we listen to I think that rock has some really great staying power to it. People who really like
rock REALLY like their rock. Sure, there's some stuff that is plain cheese and there's some stuff that is far too
fluffy, but I still think that in general the golden age of rock had a lot to offer.

There's a lot of reasons not to like rock, but for me the guitar is something I just love to listen to. It took a long
time for me to appreciate some of the prog that doesn't use it, likely explaining my love for our genre of "heavy
prog"... But hey, it's all a matter of opinion, right?

And ah yes... AC/DC... being that my brother learned to play guitar to them I've heard all their albums a million
times. The Razors Edge is likely the only one I can still listen to... But the rest - Get them away! I don't want
to hear it anymore!!!

But Prof. said it best: I came for the rock, I stayed for the prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:07
I love rock music.  So, you guessed it:  I'm a predictable, boring, FM-friendly guyErmm
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:31
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

The entire point is what it communicates to you, and ruling out an entire "genre" just because of the way it's constructed smacks highly of prejudice and lack of taste.


Um... touchy. ;P I've listened to enough base rock music to know that I don't like it, and to work out the reasons why I don't. The entire point of music might be what message you get from it for you but that's not necessarily why I'm listening, is it?

Everyone who mistook a preference for an attack... well, I don't like them. =P

Edited by laplace - May 27 2008 at 12:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 12:51
I tend not to like rock and roll, typical blues based classic rock, AOR, arena rock, and guitar rock.  I tend not to like very predictable music with classic rock lineups, slick melodic rock, or "hard rock".  I like quirky music.  I grew up as someone into classical music first, and then delved into jazz.  The "rock" I tend to like best is what is sometimes described as avant-garde chamber rock, and it doesn't have to rock (really "chamber and experimental music" generally describes my tastes better).  And I like much folk-rock and jazz-rock (and of course, prog rock).

There are exceptions,  and my tastes are quite eclectic.  I used to listen to classic rock radio a fair amount, when I hadn't a CD or working tape player in my car, but most of it gets on my nerves.  There's not enough quirkiness, contrast, twists and turns, genre bending, and varied instrumentation (especially involving acoustic instruments such as the cello, shakuhachi, santoor, whatever) in the music (though I like electronic music muchly too).  The steady beat, pedestrian lyrics, and non-explorative nature of the music tends not to appeal.  I don't like most modern rock, either.

I don't consider myself a fan of rock music, but it depends on how the bands utilise/ approach rock in the music, but my natural inclination is very far from rock, electric instrumentation and heavy drumming, even though I listen to so much rock-based music (piano beats Hammond, cello beats guitar, xylophone beats drums generally for me).
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2008 at 13:17
 ^ most of that is fair except I would take issue with the 'pedestrian lyrics' of rock..  I've found as I mature that in fact the best rock'nroll has some of the more adult, truly sophisticated lyrics in music - Beatles, Paul Simon, CS&N, Bowie - these are the true wordsmiths in popular music, whereas Prog and Avant Garde tends to be more spaced-out and distracted   ..just an observation
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