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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2009 at 18:34
Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Is Meshuggah dark?


Not really. It's just cold and mechanical. Some traces of anger maybe, but overall they're one of those bands that are too technical to allow for emotion. It's not the point anyway.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2009 at 18:41
A few suggestions:

Van Der Graaf Generator are responsible for A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers, essentially a twenty minute exercise in anger, disillusion, fear, uncertainty, loneliness and suffering. More subtly, the disillusionment of My Room (Waiting For Wonderland) plays on the human condition's fear and, perhaps, futility. Dark moods are present on essentially all of their classic albums, even if they aren't always predominant.

Peter Hammill's solo career is no cheerier at times, with particular credit to the dark philosophy of Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night, the heartbreak of Over and the single most terrifying piece of music ever made, Gog.


Il Balletto Di Bronzo's Ys springs to mind, at times, early Genesis was very bleak and Atomic Rooster also spring to mind as a sort of depressive creature.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2009 at 18:53
I'll have to repeat King Crimson and VDGG, two dark classic prog bands, which I enjoy time to time, but not faves because of their dark mood, lol.

Atomic Rooster as Rob said. But I must say just their debut and Death Walks Behind You.
Then Sabbath, in a very similar way as Rooster, for their lyrics and compositions.

Gentle Giant at times, with the dissonance and medieval style, feels like dark to me at times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 00:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 00:29
Univers Zero

Fun Fact: Lustmord is darker.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 05:05
Artists not mentioned yet:
The Red Masque (very dark indeed).
Offering, especially the album "A Fieh", which sounds like a black mass.
Early Tangerine Dream appear pretty dark to me, especially the albums "Alpha Centauri", "Atem", "Phaedra" and "Rubycon".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 06:08
Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Please define "dark"...


Well said that critter. I think before anyone embarks upon a response to the original poster, the latter has to offer some form of definition for what they think constitutes 'dark music'

Is it the lyrics, the palette of sounds or both ?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 06:43

 
Univers Zero offshoot; equally as dark, only much pointier and direct. Triskaidèkaphobie is the darkest of those two albums, with a prominent, almost threatening and obsessive "horror movie" vibe throughout. VERY dark stuff. Spanish band October Equus have released a couple of albums that shows a clear influence from Univers Zero/Present and have a similar dark sound, although I still feel their "mentors" beats them with a few feet!
 
I also have to mention Yog Sothoth, which is similar to Shub-Niggurath only with a stronger jazz approach. Very dark and brooding stuff. Shub-Niggurath guitarist Frank-William Fromy also released a VERY dark LP in 1988 entitled 'Quatre Axes Mutants' which is just as dark and creepy as S-N and beats much other stuff I've heard..
 
 


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EXERIOR Experimental tech/death/progmetal from Norway!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 06:57
From the old school Van Der Graaf Generator, some King Crimson and Pink Floyd albums, from the most newer ones , Anekdoten for sure, Digital Ruin, Dark Suns, but are more I just don't rember now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 08:17
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Please define "dark"...


Well said that critter. I think before anyone embarks upon a response to the original poster, the latter has to offer some form of definition for what they think constitutes 'dark music'

Is it the lyrics, the palette of sounds or both ?



Its a bit like asking, please define: "fun"...

You both have to decide for yourself.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 08:26
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:


Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Please define "dark"...
Well said that critter. I think before anyone embarks upon a response to the original poster, the latter has to offer some form of definition for what they think constitutes 'dark music'Is it the lyrics, the palette of sounds or both ?
Its a bit like asking, please define: "fun"...You both have to decide for yourself.


There is no right or wrong answer, I want to hear your opinon of what dark music is. You could say that the Beatles was the darkest band that you listened too and if you backed up with reasoning than thats totally alright.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 08:31
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For sound: Shub-Niggurath
For lyrics: Van der Graaf Generator
For concept: Comus


I would have to say that Comus is the darkest, creepiest band I have ever heard.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 08:43
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

 
Univers Zero offshoot; equally as dark, only much pointier and direct. Triskaidèkaphobie is the darkest of those two albums, with a prominent, almost threatening and obsessive "horror movie" vibe throughout. VERY dark stuff. 


How could I forget. Present are pretty much dark and gloomy throughout their whole discography.

Good call on gloomy avantjazzband Yog Sothoth too. 

And I agree with the person who mentioned early Tangerine Dream, and I'll add early Klaus Schulze. Especially his three first. Icecold and dark.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 08:46
Originally posted by EvilGnome EvilGnome wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

For sound: Shub-Niggurath
For lyrics: Van der Graaf Generator
For concept: Comus


I would have to say that Comus is the darkest, creepiest band I have ever heard.


I've gotten so used to playing it in the forest and parks with friends while drinking. I mean its also a very uplifting, energic party album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 14:20
Yep.

I'd say is more creepy and odd, than dark.

I say the likes of Present, Shub-Niggurath and Univers Zéro are darker than Comus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 15:33
The problem with non-Heresie Univers Zero and Presnt is that the atmosphere is interrupted by frantic, dissonant jamming, which can be upsetting I guess, but darkness for me comes from dwelling on dreary, bleak, terrifying soundscapes, like Lustmord, Robert Rich, some Sunn 0))), and other dark ambient artists.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:03
Arachnoid comes to mind as dark symphonic from France.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:12
If it hasn't been mentioned, I'll say it, The Tangent. Yeah, I think they're darkest of the Retro Prog ones I know, rather than the up-lifting(not a bad thing) Transatlantic or The Flower Kings. (I heard Karmakanic latest was dark? or just heavier?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 18:33
Anekdotens Nucleus must be one of the harshest and darkest records everShocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 04:38
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Darkest song I know: No Quarter by Led Zeppelin. Not just dark, also totally depressing.
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