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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 15:39
Hi,
 
I had not a single CD.
 
I did not know anything about them. And I was photographing the 1999 SF Progressive Music Festival.
 
On Saturday, at 11 or so, when PT folks begun arriving and to setup their show equipment, it had been found that in the process, Richard's Prophet 5 took a nasty spill. For several hours with a couple of folks and everyone chasing down every music shop and Radio Shack that they could find, they were not able to fix the keyboard. Richard spent over 4 hours through at least two band's behind the curtains, programming what looked like 2 synths. They went on at their time slot, and were ready. A roady was bitching and moaning like a frustrated cow, but I have to tell you that this band sounded spectacular ... and I stood there and watched. So far in the two days, only Lana Lane and the Rocket Scientists had really showed up ... they opened the day with a tight set that was very well designed and the musicianship displayed was too good to ignore ... sadly, a lot of people were not listening, or appreciating good music! The rest was ... average if you ask me, including Brand X ... and then PT was on ... I finally had enough of that roadie and told him to shut up in the lobby and either turn on his ears or leave. I heard three people clap in the background.
 
It was a fine show, and Steven did allude to the loss of the keyboard, but you would figure that he would be perturbed and not feel that they could not do what they did well enough ... well, .... they did! And probably better than they would have to since they might have had to color more ... and be better.
 
It was an amazing show, and showed what master musicians and team workers can do. But the real kudo goes to Richard ... he knew what he was doing ... and as far as I am concerned, it was excellent ... I did buy a couple of CD's after that, not even knowing which to get.
 
So if you want punk or prog, don't bother.
 
If you want music ... welcome home!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 20:49

Porcupine Tree, another overated band, cause of the lack of inspiration in these musical hard times...Dead



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 20:54
So the sad state of popular music is due solely to Porcupine Tree?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 21:03
Don't pay attention to that guy. He's fairly new and already sounding like a prude. Bad form, if you ask me. Thumbs Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 21:44
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

So the sad state of popular music is due solely to Porcupine Tree?
 
No, the sad state of popular music is due to the lack of inspiration...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 21:50
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Don't pay attention to that guy. He's fairly new and already sounding like a prude. Bad form, if you ask me. Thumbs Down
 
I was only giving my opinion about that band. What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps you might think better before saying things, well, I meant to say just think...ConfusedThumbs Down


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 21:52
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Don't pay attention to that guy. He's fairly new and already sounding like a prude. Bad form, if you ask me. Thumbs Down
 
I was only giving my opinion about that band. What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps you might think better before saying things, well, I meant to say just think...ConfusedThumbs Down


You stated your opinion as fact, and it sounded quite belittling to those of us here who do enjoy modern Prog Rock. That's all I'm pointing out.






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 22:23
Well I wish I was still discovering Porcupine Tree, what a ride that was.. great band. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 28 2009 at 23:36
Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Don't pay attention to that guy. He's fairly new and already sounding like a prude. Bad form, if you ask me. Thumbs Down
 
I was only giving my opinion about that band. What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps you might think better before saying things, well, I meant to say just think...ConfusedThumbs Down


You stated your opinion as fact, and it sounded quite belittling to those of us here who do enjoy modern Prog Rock. That's all I'm pointing out.




 
Well, sure it was a fact, but MY personal fact. If my opinion sounded to you belligerent, youīve got the problem, not me. Review your way of behaviour, because the word prude suits better to you...is the humble opinion of a rough and cheeky newbie like me...Smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 01:05
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by p0mt3 p0mt3 wrote:

Don't pay attention to that guy. He's fairly new and already sounding like a prude. Bad form, if you ask me. Thumbs Down
 
I was only giving my opinion about that band. What the hell are you talking about? Perhaps you might think better before saying things, well, I meant to say just think...ConfusedThumbs Down


You stated your opinion as fact, and it sounded quite belittling to those of us here who do enjoy modern Prog Rock. That's all I'm pointing out.




 
Well, sure it was a fact, but MY personal fact. If my opinion sounded to you belligerent, youīve got the problem, not me. Review your way of behaviour, because the word prude suits better to you...is the humble opinion of a rough and cheeky newbie like me...Smile


LOL Okay, I understand what you mean. I'll be nice . . . as hard as it is sometimes. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 08:06
I first heard Porcupine Tree about 10 years ago, via "The Sky Moves Sideways".  I thought it was pretty good, but I didn't really catch onto their sound until about a year ago, when I started hearing how amazing they were on message boards.  Curious, I jumped back on the boat and bought "In Absentia" and "Deadwing".  Since then, I've pretty much gotten everything.  Fantastic band.  I prefer the newer stuff because it's tighter and feels more like a band effort.  I like their metal inclinations because it adds just the right amount of drama and edge to their music, even though I'm not really a fan of metal.  They're probably as close to a "perfect band" as there is today, at least among the more well-known groups.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 08:07
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

And I was photographing the 1999 SF Progressive Music Festival.
 
I was at that show too!  I recently got a DVD of that show as well, from a friend.
 
PT was good at that show, but I really came to see Magma, so I didn't go ga-ga over PT at the time.
(Bondage Fruit was the real surprise at that festival though... wow!)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 08:55
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree, another overated band, cause of the lack of inspiration in these musical hard times...Dead


I'm an old prog fan and I just can't agree.  Granted Steven does do some heavy borrowing from past music.  I still like what he does with it.  Sometimes it just boils down to tastes.  I've always been one for if you don't like it why waste your time commenting on it.  Promote what you do like for crying out loud.  There's usually plenty of samples out there for people to make up their own minds and not waste their time on something they are not going to like.

Using the terms overrated and underrated are often a cop out for not actually explaining yourself.  Personally, I'd ban them from this site. LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - July 29 2009 at 08:58
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 09:16
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree, another overated band, cause of the lack of inspiration in these musical hard times...Dead


I'm an old prog fan and I just can't agree.  Granted Steven does do some heavy borrowing from past music.  I still like what he does with it.  Sometimes it just boils down to tastes.  I've always been one for if you don't like it why waste your time commenting on it.  Promote what you do like for crying out loud.  There's usually plenty of samples out there for people to make up their own minds and not waste their time on something they are not going to like.

Using the terms overrated and underrated are often a cop out for not actually explaining yourself.  Personally, I'd ban them from this site. LOL

Porcupine Tree is SOOOOOOOO over-rated.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 10:24

Personally I really like 'Fear of a blank planet'.

It's a modern masterpiece.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 10:29
Originally posted by Bondarus Bondarus wrote:

Personally I really like 'Fear of a blank planet'.

It's a modern masterpiece.

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The more I listen to it, I more I realized I didn't hear on the last listen. Those guys really crafted it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 11:22
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree, another overated band, cause of the lack of inspiration in these musical hard times...Dead


I'm an old prog fan and I just can't agree.  Granted Steven does do some heavy borrowing from past music.  I still like what he does with it.  Sometimes it just boils down to tastes.  I've always been one for if you don't like it why waste your time commenting on it.  Promote what you do like for crying out loud.  There's usually plenty of samples out there for people to make up their own minds and not waste their time on something they are not going to like.

Using the terms overrated and underrated are often a cop out for not actually explaining yourself.  Personally, I'd ban them from this site. LOL
 
My comment about Porcupine Tree summarized just a particular point of view about the band. I remember listening to them a couple of months ago just to know why they are being so succesful, and my opinion after that listening was a sad one because their music was very cold to me. I respect the preferences of everybody, but PT are not a band worth of such attention (although they are interesting). Perhaps the lack of inspiration in music in these days (a huge shame, even there are interesting bands sometimes) has raised them to the Top...
 
About banning me, just wait me to open a thread discussing about the unworthy sucess of Pink Foyd...LOLLOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 11:35
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

 
My comment about Porcupine Tree summarized just a particular point of view about the band. I remember listening to them a couple of months ago just to know why they are being so succesful, and my opinion after that listening was a sad one because their music was very cold to me. I respect the preferences of everybody, but PT are not a band worth of such attention (although they are interesting). Perhaps the lack of inspiration in music in these days (a huge shame, even there are interesting bands sometimes) has raised them to the Top...
 

What do you mean by cold?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 11:37
PT has had two distinct eras, first the psychedalic spacy sound prior to In Absentia and then the more modern heavy side after 2001. I personally started with the older music but I think the newer music has a broader general mass appeal. No surprise they are more famous now even though they have been around since 90' or so. So I would recommend "Fear of blank planet" and then move your way backwards :) 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 29 2009 at 11:48
I like Porcupine Tree, as well as many other bands that have made music this decade.
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