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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 14:38
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YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 14:41
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile


While Dark Side doesn't appeal to me as much as other people, a POP album?!?!?!?! Pink Floyd may not be the most complex band, but they are surely progressive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 14:47
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile


While Dark Side doesn't appeal to me as much as other people, a POP album?!?!?!?! Pink Floyd may not be the most complex band, but they are surely progressive.
 Right on brother - How many people who loath progressive rock think that DSOTM is good?
How many copies did it sell?
WYWH was symphonic prog and so was Echoes and some of Animals - but good production, sound effects and short tracks do not make a truly progressive album.
comparing DSOTM with CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme or any of the Flokis efforts is like comparing Real Madrid with a Sunday league pub team Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 14:53
Floyd should have ONE album in the top 1000 prog albums - and thats WYWH.
Matter of opinion of course - but Floyd are simply far too liked by non-proggies - It may be inverse snobbery but Id like to think that your average boy-zone fan would rather die than listen to Monsters and Men, however that same fan would also not mind Floyd...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 15:20
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile


While Dark Side doesn't appeal to me as much as other people, a POP album?!?!?!?! Pink Floyd may not be the most complex band, but they are surely progressive.
 Right on brother - How many people who loath progressive rock think that DSOTM is good?
How many copies did it sell?
WYWH was symphonic prog and so was Echoes and some of Animals - but good production, sound effects and short tracks do not make a truly progressive album.
comparing DSOTM with CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme or any of the Flokis efforts is like comparing Real Madrid with a Sunday league pub team Big smile


CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, and the Flokis are ALL SYMPHONIC PROG!! Pink Floyd is Phychadelic/Space Rock. They should not be compared, being that they are two completely different types of prog. Death is considered prog. Pink Floyd is considered prog. Frank Zappa is considered prog. Tool is considered prog. Yes is considered prog. Should we compare Pink Floyd to Opeth? Not at all! You cannot listen to Pink Floyd expecting something in the vein of Yes.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 15:42
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile


While Dark Side doesn't appeal to me as much as other people, a POP album?!?!?!?! Pink Floyd may not be the most complex band, but they are surely progressive.
 Right on brother - How many people who loath progressive rock think that DSOTM is good?
How many copies did it sell?
WYWH was symphonic prog and so was Echoes and some of Animals - but good production, sound effects and short tracks do not make a truly progressive album.
comparing DSOTM with CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme or any of the Flokis efforts is like comparing Real Madrid with a Sunday league pub team Big smile


CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, and the Flokis are ALL SYMPHONIC PROG!! Pink Floyd is Phychadelic/Space Rock. They should not be compared, being that they are two completely different types of prog. Death is considered prog. Pink Floyd is considered prog. Frank Zappa is considered prog. Tool is considered prog. Yes is considered prog. Should we compare Pink Floyd to Opeth? Not at all! You cannot listen to Pink Floyd expecting something in the vein of Yes.
 
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Oh, and Animals is pretty much PF's most proggy work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 15:47
Originally posted by Any Colour You Like Any Colour You Like wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile


While Dark Side doesn't appeal to me as much as other people, a POP album?!?!?!?! Pink Floyd may not be the most complex band, but they are surely progressive.
 Right on brother - How many people who loath progressive rock think that DSOTM is good?
How many copies did it sell?
WYWH was symphonic prog and so was Echoes and some of Animals - but good production, sound effects and short tracks do not make a truly progressive album.
comparing DSOTM with CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme or any of the Flokis efforts is like comparing Real Madrid with a Sunday league pub team Big smile


CTTE, TFTO, SEBTP, Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, and the Flokis are ALL SYMPHONIC PROG!! Pink Floyd is Phychadelic/Space Rock. They should not be compared, being that they are two completely different types of prog. Death is considered prog. Pink Floyd is considered prog. Frank Zappa is considered prog. Tool is considered prog. Yes is considered prog. Should we compare Pink Floyd to Opeth? Not at all! You cannot listen to Pink Floyd expecting something in the vein of Yes.
 
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Oh, and Animals is pretty much PF's most proggy work.


Either that or Wish You Were Here definitely. To call Pink Floyd a pop band is just an uninformed statement.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 16:19
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Pretty much all the PF stuff > Yes for me.
I was never a fan of Howe's soloing style on electric guitar, always struck me as cold and mechanical sounding, whereas I feel a sense of warmth in Gilmour's solos.
 
I feel exactly the same about their playing, I don't dislike Howe but I definitely prefer Gilmour.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 16:39
Originally posted by SgtPepper67 SgtPepper67 wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Pretty much all the PF stuff > Yes for me.
I was never a fan of Howe's soloing style on electric guitar, always struck me as cold and mechanical sounding, whereas I feel a sense of warmth in Gilmour's solos.
 
I feel exactly the same about their playing, I don't dislike Howe but I definitely prefer Gilmour.


I love Steve Howe, but he definitely isn't my favorite guitarist. Gilmour's melodic style is absolutely amazing, however.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 17:06
Dark Side of the moon, or close to the edge? Dark Side Of The Moon
Wish you were here or I've seen all good people? Wish You Were Here
Hey you, or Heart of the sunrise? Heart Of The Sunrise, Yessongs Version
Echoes or the Gates of Delerium? Echoes

I like both bands, but in this instance Pink Floyd wins.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:44
In the absence of a poll that would make me choose, I'm going to say that I'll have both Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 18:59
I'd prefer Floyd in general. Yes were really only electrifying for me in the Fragile/Close To The Edge period. Floyd have four or five truly great albums. In addition, Floyd had some of the greatest lyrics in rock music ever, Anderson's were usually doing something, and occasionally brilliant, but he's still not close to Waters in terms of emotional power.

Answering the questions: Close To The Edge, Wish You Were Here, Heart Of The Sunrise, Echoes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 21:35
Pink Floyd a pop band? I do agree they are by far the most popular band from those considered Prog, but a pop band??? They definitly have much more to offer than a pop band, just the fact that they don't play at all speed and that are widely accepted doesn't mean their music is less valuable.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 21:44
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Floyd should have ONE album in the top 1000 prog albums - and thats WYWH.
Matter of opinion of course - but Floyd are simply far too liked by non-proggies - It may be inverse snobbery but Id like to think that your average boy-zone fan would rather die than listen to Monsters and Men, however that same fan would also not mind Floyd...........
Why did I not think of these points before.......what a genius.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2009 at 21:51
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...


That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue
Floyd ? - A pop band who did ONE BRILLIANT album - WYWH and one excellent track - Echoes and thats all folks. DSOTM - a well produced pop album nothing more.
Floyd could and should have forgotten about the shekels and produced some REAL prog - instead they did pop that sold ZILLIONS !!!!
Yes - Well CTTE is A dogs sense of smell and DSOTM is the sense of smell in an octogenarian smoker from smolensk - thats the gulf in class....Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 02:30
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:


Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

YES. No real competition for me...
That's what I thought you would say, JoelTongue


I am quite the YES fanboy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 02:32
Dark Side of the moon, or close to the edge?
Wish you were here or I've seen all good people?
Hey you, or Heart of the sunrise?
Echoes or the Gates of Delerium?



Anyone care to take a guess what I chose?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 10:11
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Dark Side of the moon, or close to the edge?
Wish you were here or I've seen all good people?
Hey you, or Heart of the sunrise?
Echoes or the Gates of Delerium?



Anyone care to take a guess what I chose?


No prizes for guessing correctly, I presume, Joel?LOL

As regards the thread, you simply cannot compare the two bands, and, as ever, the responses depend upon personal tastes.

Both are seminal bands whose influence will last well beyond the grave. People will either be playing their music, or making music influenced by them, for many years to come, the mark of truly great artists. I will not bother choosing, I think they are both crucial and great.

BTW - M27Barney's post that PF are a POP band? I've seen some ridiculous comments in my time, but this easily gets first prize. You may as well call Yes a pop band for releasing, amongst others, Wondrous Stories.

Prog bands ARE ALLOWED to have commercial success, you know.Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 12:20
I have had the same argument a lot of times and how can I be uninformed when I have listened to Floyd quite a lot. Floyd like Genesis are more known for their pop music than their brief dabble with symphonic prog. Genesis with Gabriel + the two before Hackett packed it - Sublime. And then they were pop...........
Floyd actually made their accessible pop album in 1973 hm while Genesis produced the best Symphonic akbum EVER! (and yes were delivering a four track epic that most people hated and made Wakeman leave the band) - Why can't Dark side of the Moon be classed as a pop album? It has short catchy tracks - in no way does it have any right to be above albums that ARE infinately superior - I don't hate floyd just think that their musci is way OVERATED !!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 04 2009 at 13:54
It's like asking "is it better John Mc Laughlin or Eric Clapton?". Very technical the first, sometimes too much and very intuitive and introspective the second. They simply can't be compared, and I like both the two, as well as I like both Floyds and Yes, in different moments of the day, of course. 
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