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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38689 |
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I prefer Shylock's début, but I think it's a very good album. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Tsevir Leirbag ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
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That's what I was going to say.
Giarlogues is great.
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hmm, I take from your low key and statesman-like answer that I might want to hold off and save my $ for something else
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Padraic ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
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shamelessly using john's review for:
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38689 |
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I'd be reluctant to tell anyone that they should spend money on an album -- they might not like it. Put it this way, for me Shylock's début is the really essential one. The second is definitely good, and for some it's Shylock's masterpiece, but for me, especially as I have the début which I prefer, it is rather dispensable. Edited by Logan - March 24 2010 at 19:43 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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UNIVERSAL TOTEM ORCHESTRA - The Magus
Though not a big fan of Zeuhl (i do like my 2 Magma albums and Weidorje), I cannot help
really admiring this very creative offering from UTO. "Pane Astrale" is a riveting "Da Vinci Code" like soundtrack theme, with shimering operatic vocals and a beautiful melody. Then , the band takes its first big plunge into the absurd with the epic 21 minute "Saturno" , a devilish rollercoaster of chants, booming bass and savage drumming (Hey, that's Zeuhl!), with spiraling guitar and keyboard motifs pinging and ponging all over the place. This is quite evocative prog , sensibly original , diverse and inspired. Each time I give this a spin, I cannot help but revisit in my mind the Omen Trilogy of horror flick fame, as this would definitely serve as a wonderful soundtrack alternate, chillingly eerie, sweepingly powerful and really mesmerizing in its constant contrasts and hues. The medieval cello-driven theme continues on "El viaggio di Elric"(Elric's Voyage), with some more theatrics from the orchestra , spewing out booming synths , doom-laden percolating percussives and angst drenched vocal themes. The bass is the maestro leading the show, always hunting for new sonic territories to lead his mates to, ( a la Paganotti-Top with a dash of Howlett -era Gong for good measure). Guest guitarist Marco Mauro shows great skill in travelling to great flight of notes , loaded with frenzied restraint (an oxymoron?) . This track is fascinating, the igniter of the great ratings this album has received, with a apocalytic finale that defies reason and odds , sinister and martial , akin to the march of the "Pink Fascists" of the Wall. Next up, a psychotic musical landscape with funky bar room jazz piano noodlings , laying down the carpet for some repetitive chanting (Me High, get it?), some tortuous six string slinging in a Soft Machine-era Holdsworthian mood, creepy bass underpinning, groovy synthosonics a la Gilly Smyth (her legendary Space Whisper) and recurring male demonic chants . The next two tracks continue the voyage into the Carmina Burana like world of these Italian masters. This modern prog masterpiece is often revisited and like fine wine, it gets better with each go around. Time for another offering but I somehow find it improbable to surpass this level of originality . But, Prog is soooo unpredictable (which is its most coveted attribute , when you think of it...) 5 vander zeuhls |
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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I've done as you suggested Raff and thanks for thinking this thread worthy of being a sticky.
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Got to get this one in from Patto......
Hold Your Fire Patto Jazz Rock/Fusion Review by Nightfly ![]() Things get off to a great start with the title track; a song that all would be guitarists should listen too. It's not a complex song but Ollie Halsall's fluent guitar work is stunning as he weaves and bobs with a style that sounds like he's almost soloing through the entire piece. The mellower You, You Point Your Finger follows and is a lovely piece with a excellent vocal performance from Mike Patto and suitably subtle playing from the rest of the band. How's Your Father is another mellow song and along with Halsall's fluent guitar work he also adds piano. It seems he could play any instrument he turned his mind to. See You At The Dance Tonight is more of a straight ahead rock song, or as straight as Patto ever played them, once again Halsall turning in a fine inventive performance including a fantastic solo. Side 2 of the original vinyl version opened with another rocking song Give It All Away which is played with a swing feel and at the risk of sounding repetitive another great guitar solo. Air Raid Shelter is the band in jazz mode with a strong and dynamic performance from drummer John Halsey and bassist Clive Griffith's who really take off when Halsall goes into solo mode. Tell Me Where You've Been subtly shifts the time around yet still retains a solid rhythm and is another inventive track; wonderful stuff. The album closes with Magic Door and Halsall lets his guitar take a back seat in favour of piano and vibes. Another laid back tune, it's played extremely well and a great way to end. Patto never managed to get the success they deserved but Hold Your Fire and their eponymous debut are two early seventies gems that fans of great guitar playing in particular should check out. Highly recommended. |
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I made this a Sticky Topic (but please all members keep it on topic).
Definitely something we want to promote here, getting those gems better known so that more people can enjoy them. I'll chime in with my own recommendations later. |
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Thanks Assaf
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38689 |
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A few that really amazed me are in my sig (I really love albums with choral qualities and commonly like those prog albums that have jazz and academic music qualities with psych leanings). I consider all of these to be essential masterpieces:
Japan's Geinoh Yamashirogumi's Osorezan (1976) the A side of the album in particular, is fantastic. Geinoh Yamairogumi is not really obscure, having done the soundtrack to Akira, but the first album is seriously underknown. It's a fairly Eclectic, avant, psych and ethnic-Japanese oriented album. It strats with a scream that would put some off immediately. It has a wonderful funky, and rather jazzy, vibe during the middle of the "Osorezan" track. The whole piece is available for listening at youtube, but and post hyperlinks to it (was broken up into three parts for youtube). I'd suggest that people at least listen to part two, and if that appeals then play all of it: Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan Part 1Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan Part 2Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan Part 3Bjorn J:Son Lindh's Fran storstad till Grodspad (1971)is another album that blew me away. Again, it's quite Eclectic -- ranging from jazz, funk, academic music, psyche,folk and pop to rock. It's a great prog album. Here is an excerpt from the side-long title track: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWXKn56Gypg I so wish I had a sample of Den Dansande Wollmarwhich (the second longest piece which is excellent and reminds me of Jean Paul Prat's later Masal). One of the best albums I've discovered in the past ten years. Another eclectic-oriented album that blew me away when I heard it was Jean Claude Vannier's L'enfant assassin des mouches (1972). It's a definite five star album for me, and for quite a while it was my favourite album. I am very overdue in adding it and when I do I will try my best to write a review that does it justice, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR-S-Uf-gos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0KHQ_onGWY Not sure it's that obscure, but William Sheller's Lux Aeterna (released in 1972) is another that had a profound effect on me. It's certainly one the best choral, rock-oriented album I've heard and led me to discovering a lot more wonderful music Great arrangements by Sheller. It's sometimes categorized as classical. William Sheller - Lux Aeterna - Introit Edited by Logan - March 25 2010 at 12:54 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38689 |
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I've already mentioned Eddie Henderson's "Realization" where I referenced various works that would appeal to those who love Hancock's Mwandishi trilogy (particularly Crossings and Sextant), but a real stand-out for me is Julian Priester's Love, Love, and truly I absolutely love, love it. I am going to review it at some time as it's a five star masterpiece for my tastes (if you like this then definitely check out Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus as as well as Henderson's Realization).
Though I rate it higher as amonsgt the best best albums of its ilk I've heard (5 stars), here's Easy Money's excellent review: .......................................................................................... Review by Easy Money ADMIN GROUP Jazz-Rock/Fusion ![]() Side one starts with beautiful subtle orchestrations with horns blending with Pat Gleeson's electronics, then the band breaks into a steady odd-metered groove while the horns, synths, guitars and Melotrons all have their chance to snake by and have their say. All this is nice and groovy in an early 70s psychedelic way, and it does have a very nice retro sound to it, but after awhile it does go on a bit long. Also, typical on this album is less than top- notch mixing from Gleeson and Priester, who are not pro mixers and it shows. The problem manifests itself on this side with a loud persistent hi-hat that could have been placed a bit lower in volume. Side two is a little more adventurous and energetic as the band opens by alternating avant rushes of drum driven heavily echoed solos, with quiet mysterious orchestrated electronics/acoustic horns passages. The music and playing is top notch, but once again Gleeson and Priester undermine themselves by putting the synthesizers to high in the mix, and giving the drums a very muddy sound that makes most of the set disappear except the cymbals. Halfway through the second side (song titles seem to mean nothing on this album) the band brings it all together with this charging rhythm that's part Afro-Cuban and part galloping psychedelic space rock. Everone piles on with intertwining solos and for once the production is dead-on as Gleeson's synth colors blend perfectly with the horn players relentless solos. If this album had been mixed and produced by professionals it would have been
a 'masterpiece', all the same, it is still very good and is highly recommended for fans of the
Herbie Hancock Sextet. |
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Wow Greg, that's pretty amazing stuff! I've only listened once but I could really get into that.
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38689 |
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Thanks Paul. It's one of my favourite finds of the last year and I'm hoping it will be accepted for and included in PA ere too long. My daughter has asked me never to play it because of the screaming that I inadvertently exposed her to (she's a sensitive child), but I can always use headphones. Another gem, for me is The Advancement's self-titled from '69). Great album, I think. Here's a review from http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/7504689/a/Advancement.htm
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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A very nice thread you have going here, and a few albums that are really taking my fancy. I may post a review or two here in time, though of course most of mine will come ftom the metal side of prog.
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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This may be my favorite obscure gem, and one of the better albums I've heard in the last several years. A brief project that included Samla Mammas Manna percussionist Hans Bruniusson:
![]() ![]() In fact this probably wasn’t a proper band per se. It appears to have been a collective of established Swedish musicians who got together for whatever reason during the Dark Ages of Prog and cranked out this gem before moving on to more prominent endeavors. The ‘project’ seems to have been centered on former Samla Mammas Manna percussionist Hans Bruniusson, who would largely fade from the progressive music scene after this before ending up in the Flower Kings years later. Ulf Wallander, who seems to have played on just about everyone’s albums during this period is also present, as is Ove Karlsson of the seventies psych-folk group Arbete & Fritid. Someone named Marie Selander contributes vocals, but only on the opening track. And Karl Erik- Eriksson of Ramlösa Kvällar rounds out the troupe. As for the music, there’s not enough of it but what is there is beyond good and it really is a tragedy this hasn’t been legitimately reissued by someone. There are definite influences of the strident and muddled RIO/jazz sounds of Samla Mammas Manna. But while bands like Samla and Henry Cow (and those of their ilk) have a tendency to sometimes be experimental and undisciplined (and therefore somewhat inaccessible), Nya Ljudbolaget seems to be intentionally avoiding that route. The arrangements are all clearly carefully composed and were recorded with an apparent minimal amount of improvisation. This makes for songs that are pretty easy to follow, which may not sound appealing to those who like to be challenged by their music. But if you’re just looking for something complex yet ear-appealing even on the first spin then this stuff is for you. I’ve read reviews that say this is also Eastern-inspired music, but I don’t really agree. Yes, there are the occasional flourishing saxophone passages that could almost be considered Moorish or something like that, and some of the cello parts do seem to be Eastern-leaning as the cello sometimes does when it lacks the benefit of an accompanying violin or viola. But for the most part any ‘ethnic’ sounds present in the music seem to be more Latin-leaning. Bruniusson’s vibraphone and marimba playing especially fit this description, and the darbouka and other hand percussion instruments add to this impression. There’s a bit of a Baltic sound as well, particularly with “Minnesvisa” and “Immigrantlament”. I’m sure that’s the wrong description on my part, but these are tracks that have the same kind of timbre I’ve heard before with Eastern European klezmer music, just a little less raucous. At times the music also reminds me of the band’s fellow countrymen In the Labyrinth and specifically of that group’s ‘Dryad’ album. That band has undeniable Arab and Indian influences, but ‘Dryad’ also has the same old-World Eastern European feel to it that this one has. Again I’ll mention “Immigrantlament” in this context, with its darbouka-driven beat and lilting soprano saxophone that sounds more like a recorder or even a high-pitched oboe. The strongest Samlas sound seems to come out on “Brudmarsch Fran Orsa”, a meandering jazz-fusion number that is dominated by Erik-Eriksson’s trumpet and is also the one track that does have a bit of improvisational feel to it. “Langtan och Fornekelse” is similar but with a lot more emphasis on percussion. A humorous note – my on-line translator tells me that the title “Langtan och Fornekelse” in English means “Langtan and Fornekelse”. Very helpful. Every track here is special, but there are two that really demonstrate what makes this album a treat. First, the two part “Trio/Nar Gryningen Kommer” which starts off as disjointed strings and reeds working to find a groove, then gives way to a fairly melodic and peaceful passage of soprano saxophone blended with cello (did I just use the words ‘melodic’ and ‘cello’ in the same sentence?). And the second highlight worth calling out is the lengthy “Continuum Prometheus” which takes a long time to get going but eventually melds trumpet, piano, vibraphone and some odd synthesized sounds into a trance- like arrangement that eventually adds some of the only noticeable snare drumming on the album. Bruniusson shows why his drumming has been used to program digital drum machines over the years – it is perfection in motion. Why wouldn’t someone who can’t do this themselves want to have a machine that would do it for them? The closing “Chal Chal Chal” (Turkish for “Chal Chal Chal” according to that same crappy on-line translator) is a fun little ditty featuring trumpet, vibraphone and synthesized keys, and which demonstrates that the boys had to have had some fun making this record. So in closing I’ll say that if you can find this record – buy it. I’ve only seen a couple copies and both of them were out of reach of my budget, but hopefully this will be available some day on CD so we can all enjoy it. I’m going to go with five stars here just because I can’t think of any reason not to. Highly recommended to any kind of progressive music fan. peace |
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I'll be sure to check the last suggestion. Great thread, I already checked stuff suggested by Greg, which were all good.
I'll try to come by and make a few suggestions in the next days (Zeuhl/Avant/RIO, mostly).
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Some more excellent suggestions here; looking forward to checking them out over the next few days.
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Album number 2 seems to have been in the pipeline forever but this will do nicely for now......
Unirytmejä Manogurgeil Jazz Rock/Fusion Review by Nightfly ![]() Opening track Alue is a bit of an anomaly being somewhat different in style to the rest of the album. It's also the only track to feature vocals by guest Noora Tommila who has an excellent voice. It's a catchy song with a more commercial style than the rest of the album though the underlying vibe of the song still has a jazzy feel. Sydämesi Suljettu Yrttitarha starting with a jazz feel develops into something more along the lines of Caravan and at almost 12 minutes there's plenty of opportunity to develop these musical stylings whilst not losing sight of a strong melody. Noursut starts with an ambient synth which fades to the background giving way to jazzy electric piano, guitar and subtle ride cymbal dominated drumming before building into something more powerful with a harsh synth sound coming well to the fore but it's all over in a few minutes. I enjoyed the vibe of this track and it's a shame they didn't develop it further into something longer which it would have easily leant itself to. They do with Vesikävelijät Saltaavat Altaat however on this atmospheric instrumental which keeps up the high standard so far. As I already mentioned they remind me of Camel at times, none more so than on Poliisien Kesäkoti though lacking Andy Latimer's searing guitar. Häiritsevä Kaktus is one of the longer tracks, once again a strong jazz feel is present with a haunting spacey vibe courtesy of the electric piano. They get more experimental on Peikkotanssi which strange as it sounds starts off in a more ambient vein almost developing into a ramshackle reggae style..I stress almost. Unfortunately it doesn't really work and ends up being the least satisfying track on the album. Pikkalinnun kuolema, the final track is also an ambient piece though short at only 2 minutes and whilst marginally more interesting than Peikkotanssi is not a great way to end this excellent album. Although I thoroughly enjoyed the album and with reference to the strength of opening track Alue it would have been nice to have vocals featuring on a couple more tracks. A look at their website reveals that a full-time vocalist has now been recruited and listening to a few new songs on their myspace page suggests that Pop influences are more to the fore on their next release though hopefully not losing the Jazz and Prog along the way. |
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