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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 21:48
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

OP - CttE isn't even a concept album


So what is it about then?  Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:04
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

On a side note, I suspect John's socks are starting to get rather smelly by now.  But to give him credit, at least he hasn't broken his toes off yet.  I'll be waiting and watching. Tongue

I'm guessing there are pretty much no albums on the list that don't have someone playing a Gibson guitar.

Hmmmm....I don't think either David Gilmour nor Roger Waters ever played a Gibson product!  Gilmour seemed to be a dedicated Stratocaster guy, & Waters either did Rickenbacker or Fender basses.  

It's still a crappy list!  Gibson comes up with those from time to time, here's another:


Oh my, David Gilmour with a Gibson Les Paul??!!   Also, Greg Lake as one of the 10 greatest prog guitarists? 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:04
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

OP - CttE isn't even a concept album


So what is it about then?  Tongue


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Ouch

I thought it was about Christians and saviors and DA......DA..... da-DA-da-DA-da.....DA...DA...da-DA-da-DA-da...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:06
I'm pretty certain it is Nick Mason who did.  Just wanted to start a rumor.

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

OP - CttE isn't even a concept album


So what is it about then?  Tongue


rivers, preachers, teachers, and khatrus - duh


Ouch

I thought it was about Christians and saviors and DA......DA..... da-DA-da-DA-da.....DA...DA...da-DA-da-DA-da...

Actually, it's about 38 minutes long.


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 05 2011 at 22:08
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:07
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

On a side note, I suspect John's socks are starting to get rather smelly by now.  But to give him credit, at least he hasn't broken his toes off yet.  I'll be waiting and watching. Tongue

I'm guessing there are pretty much no albums on the list that don't have someone playing a Gibson guitar.

Hmmmm....I don't think either David Gilmour nor Roger Waters ever played a Gibson product!  Gilmour seemed to be a dedicated Stratocaster guy, & Waters either did Rickenbacker or Fender basses.  

It's still a crappy list!  Gibson comes up with those from time to time, here's another:


Oh my, David Gilmour with a Gibson Les Paul??!!   Also, Greg Lake as one of the 10 greatest prog guitarists? 




Other than Lake being there, that's not a bad list (and Howe is the only one to get a video instead of a picture Approve).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:08
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Hmmmm....I don't think either David Gilmour nor Roger Waters ever played a Gibson product!  Gilmour seemed to be a dedicated Stratocaster guy, & Waters either did Rickenbacker or Fender basses.  






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:31
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:



Hmmmm....I don't think either David Gilmour nor Roger Waters ever played a Gibson product!  Gilmour seemed to be a dedicated Stratocaster guy, & Waters either did Rickenbacker or Fender basses.  






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  OK, I stand corrected!!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 22:38
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

On a side note, I suspect John's socks are starting to get rather smelly by now.  But to give him credit, at least he hasn't broken his toes off yet.  I'll be waiting and watching. Tongue

I'm guessing there are pretty much no albums on the list that don't have someone playing a Gibson guitar.

Hmmmm....I don't think either David Gilmour nor Roger Waters ever played a Gibson product!  Gilmour seemed to be a dedicated Stratocaster guy, & Waters either did Rickenbacker or Fender basses.  

It's still a crappy list!  Gibson comes up with those from time to time, here's another:


Oh my, David Gilmour with a Gibson Les Paul??!!   Also, Greg Lake as one of the 10 greatest prog guitarists? 




Other than Lake being there, that's not a bad list (and Howe is the only one to get a video instead of a picture Approve).

Yeah, I guess I was too quick with the "crappy" label!   

It's hard to argue with this one, but there are a ton of other guitarists who deserve consideration.... Justin Hayward of the Moodies is rarely mentioned in these things, but he was an excellent guitarist with fine tone coming from his ES-335.  

I also take exception to Eric Lifeson being included, he's decent but not the equal of the others on this list.  Where's John McLaughlin, if they want Gibson players?   He smokes damn near everybody (except Fripp)!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2011 at 23:02
at least Aqualung wasn't there.. maybe someone finally heard Ian Anderson say it isn't a concept album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:32
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Gibson Guitar's "10 Greatest Concept Albums of All Time"


http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/concept-albums-1230-2010/


Hmmm....no CTTE, no Tales, no Lamb....??!!  


Thoughts?


My thoughts are that  CTTE is not a concept album anyway.

But then again neither is 2112, Sgt Pepper or Tommy.
 
I'm interested in your explanation of why you don't consider Tommy a concept album/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:33
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Gibson Guitar's "10 Greatest Concept Albums of All Time"


http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/concept-albums-1230-2010/


Hmmm....no CTTE, no Tales, no Lamb....??!!  


Thoughts?


My thoughts are that  CTTE is not a concept album anyway.

But then again neither is 2112, Sgt Pepper or Tommy.
 
I'm interested in your explanation of why you don't consider Tommy a concept album/
Maybe it is. I've always heard it described as a Rock Opera though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:40
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Sgt. Pepper is definitely proto-conceptual and needs to be in any serious concept albums top. Wink

Not entirely sure what proto-conceptual means, however Pepper was intended to be a concept album (i.e. a continuous performance by the alter ego band) but they got bored with it after the first 2 songs (which are interlinked) and abandoned the idea.
Despite the reprise of the title track before A Day In The Life, there is no concept connecting the songs together.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 04:54
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Hmm....I always considered CTTE a "concept" album, considering its lack of single, winding theme, and unifying beginning & ending!   The web is full of opinions for/against, this is a decent "for":

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Close to the Edge is a concept album and the title drack draws inspiration from Hermann Hesse's book Siddartha. 

According to this interpretation, the song tracks Hesse's character who is close to the edge of a river which is symbolic of life and being close to the past lifetimes of one's soul. 

Close to the edge of this river, the character has a spiritual awakening. This theme of spiritual awakening, spring, rebirth, rivers, valleys seeps through the album. For example, the title track is birthed out of sounds of birds and running water and fades out much the same way.

Read more: http://www.musicbanter.com/prog-psychedelic-rock/51040-yes-close-edge-1972-a.html#ixzz1ADgIMwKj

Where does side 2 fit in?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 05:38
Terrible list-no Lamb Lies Down, A Passion Play, Tales from Topographic Oceans, etc. 

As mentioned too-Green Day, really??

Another example of useless lists!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 05:40
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Gibson Guitar's "10 Greatest Concept Albums of All Time"


http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/concept-albums-1230-2010/


Hmmm....no CTTE, no Tales, no Lamb....??!!  


Thoughts?


My thoughts are that  CTTE is not a concept album anyway.

But then again neither is 2112, Sgt Pepper or Tommy.
 
I'm interested in your explanation of why you don't consider Tommy a concept album/
Maybe it is. I've always heard it described as a Rock Opera though.
 
Surely a rock opera would have to be a concept album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 06:32
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Gibson Guitar's "10 Greatest Concept Albums of All Time"


http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/concept-albums-1230-2010/


Hmmm....no CTTE, no Tales, no Lamb....??!!  


Thoughts?


My thoughts are that  CTTE is not a concept album anyway.

But then again neither is 2112, Sgt Pepper or Tommy.
 
I'm interested in your explanation of why you don't consider Tommy a concept album/
Maybe it is. I've always heard it described as a Rock Opera though.
 
Surely a rock opera would have to be a concept album.

Would it? Why?
Maybe you are right, but I've never really heard it called both.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 06:39
Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

American Idiot? i am no green day fan but i am 100% positive that this isn't even close to being a concept album. Having had the misfortune of hearing 3 or 4 of the numerous singles on that album none of them bare any conceivable relation to each other.


It is a concept album. 100% positive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 06:56
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by topographicbroadways topographicbroadways wrote:

American Idiot? i am no green day fan but i am 100% positive that this isn't even close to being a concept album. Having had the misfortune of hearing 3 or 4 of the numerous singles on that album none of them bare any conceivable relation to each other.


It is a concept album. 100% positive.

Correct.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:18
Another case of list-o-mania ?Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 06 2011 at 14:47
Nice to see that other people's lists create as much controversy as oursWink

Actually, I think it's quite good. Picking up on a couple of points, I would most certainly describe DSOTM as a concept album, in terms of understanding Waters' drive of human totality and experience. Also, definitely Tommy as a concept album. It tells a story from start to finish, just as an opera rather than traditional concept songs. CTTE though? No way.
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