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Poll Question: Your favourite?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:30
Duke Ellington for me, especially between 1944 and 1946.
I also adore the music of Count Basie.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:31
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I did vote for Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, Davis, and Hancock, all of which I think superb. By the way, John Coltrane was my first big jazz love (Giant Steps and A Love Supreme being two of my most cherished albums).

I've only heard Giant Steps from him...... I like it, but I do find that he plays sax a bit too fast sometimes, such that you can't even register what the notes are!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:44
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Obviously I know nothing, because he's running away with it! LOL


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The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, as it turns out, is the 7th overall rated album on JazzMusicArchives.com, and is the 3rd rated Post-Bop album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:49
Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I did vote for Coltrane, Mingus, Monk, Davis, and Hancock, all of which I think superb. By the way, John Coltrane was my first big jazz love (Giant Steps and A Love Supreme being two of my most cherished albums).

I've only heard Giant Steps from him...... I like it, but I do find that he plays sax a bit too fast sometimes, such that you can't even register what the notes are!



Not too fast for me enjoyment-wise, as I can follow the patterns, but sheet music would certainly help to be able to play the music note-for-note, and one may need to play in a slowed down version....
Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:52
Oh, multiple votes now?  OK, Monk and Coltrane each have a vote from me as well, now. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 15:59
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by thehallway thehallway wrote:

Obviously I know nothing, because he's running away with it! LOL


I told you Cool

The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, as it turns out, is the 7th overall rated album on JazzMusicArchives.com, and is the 3rd rated Post-Bop album


Piero Scaruffi lists it at number one (more commonly I see A Love Supreme at number one):

http://www.scaruffi.com/jazz/best100.html

  • Charles Mingus: The Black Saint And The Sinner Lady (Impulse!, 1963)
  • John Coltrane: A Love Supreme (Impulse!, 1964)
  • Albert Ayler: Spiritual Unity (ESP, 1964)
  • Sun Ra: Atlantis (Saturn, 1967)
  • Lennie Tristano: Descent into the Maelstrom (Inner City, 1952)
  • Cecil Taylor: Unit Structures (Blue Note, 1966)
  • Ornette Coleman: The Shape of Jazz To Come (Atlantic, 1959)
  • Don Cherry: Mu (BYG Actuel/Get Back, 1969)
  • Carla Bley: Escalator Over The Hill (JCOA, 1971)
  • Anthony Braxton: Saxophone Improvisations (America, 1972)
  • Miles Davis: Kind Of Blue (Columbia, 1959)
  • John Coltrane: Ascension (Impulse, 1965)
  • Art Ensemble of Chicago: Les Stances A Sophie (Nessa, 1970)
  • Eric Dolphy: Out to Lunch (Blue Note, 1964)
  • Lennie Tristano: Crosscurrents (Capitol, 1949)
  • Miles Davis: Bitches Brew (Columbia, 1969)
  • Charles Mingus Pithecanthropus Erectus (Atlantic, 1956)
  • Albert Ayler: Vibrations (Debut, 1964)
  • Thelonious Monk: Brilliant Corners (Riverside, 1956)
  • Charlie Haden: Liberation Music Orchestra (Impulse!, 1969)



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:00
    Who's this Piero Scaruffi?  He seems to have the right idea about good jazz. 
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:11
    Voted for Monk, a true maverick whose music appears to fly in the face of every established rule yet somehow works brilliantly.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:17
    Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

    Who's this Piero Scaruffi?  He seems to have the right idea about good jazz. 


    He's very well respected, and his site is popular.  I came across his site quite a few years ago.  It's a fantastic list.

    This is from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piero_Scaruffi

    Piero Scaruffi (born in Trivero, Italy, in 1955), is an Italian-American music writer. He has also published poetry books and books on artificial intelligence and cognitive science.

    He has published books on the history of rock music, jazz, avant garde music and modern popular music. His A History of Rock Music (2003) spans 50 years of the genre. Since 2003 all his books are self-published. His writings on music are hosted online[1] on his website, scaruffi.com, and include a history of jazz and a history of modern classical music. The website, especially its music section, was the subject of an article in the New York Times on October 15, 2006.[2]

    From 2000 to 2003 he was a member of the Governing Board of Directors of Leonardo Journal.[3] He chaired the Big Bang conference of June 2008 at UC-Berkeley.[4]...



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:24
    Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

    Voted for Monk, a true maverick whose music appears to fly in the face of every established rule yet somehow works brilliantly.


    Seconded, and well put sir. One more vote for the Monk, and one for Herbie - I love all the albums I have from him: Mwandishi trilogy, Headhunters, Thrust, Man-Child, Maiden Voyage, Speak like a Child and Mr Hands. Versatile, experimental and a great musician/leader who knows when to back down and let others do their thang.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 16:52
    Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

    Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

    Voted for Monk, a true maverick whose music appears to fly in the face of every established rule yet somehow works brilliantly.


    Seconded, and well put sir. One more vote for the Monk, and one for Herbie - I love all the albums I have from him: Mwandishi trilogy, Headhunters, Thrust, Man-Child, Maiden Voyage, Speak like a Child and Mr Hands. Versatile, experimental and a great musician/leader who knows when to back down and let others do their thang.

    Herbie is fantastic, well said.



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:07
    It's hard to say. Thelonious Monk is by far my favorite player from the list. John Coltrane gave me my favorite jazz album. And Mingus might be my favorite composer from the list.

    The better question is, Why isn't Cole Porter included?
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 17:34
    Louis Armstrong
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    Duke Ellington
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:31
    Miles Davis!
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:41
    Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

    Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

    Who's this Piero Scaruffi?  He seems to have the right idea about good jazz. 


    He's very well respected, and his site is popular.  I came across his site quite a few years ago.  It's a fantastic list.

    I've looked at his lists per decade as well, pretty interesting stuff.  I'll probably bookmark it for future reference.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:42
    Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

    Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

    Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

    Who's this Piero Scaruffi?  He seems to have the right idea about good jazz. 


    He's very well respected, and his site is popular.  I came across his site quite a few years ago.  It's a fantastic list.

    I've looked at his lists per decade as well, pretty interesting stuff.  I'll probably bookmark it for future reference.


    Yep, Ive bookmarked that as well.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 18:59
    I'm a Mingus man, myself
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 19:47
    Gonna go with Coltrane!
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 20:42
    would've went with Ornette Coleman if he were a choice.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2011 at 21:05
    Appreciate the two vote option, so I voted for Hancock and Coltrane. I agree with Guldbamsen, a diverse player and leader/composer is Herbie.

    I was looking for Freddie Hubbard to vote for, but I;m not saying that to complain. Interested to see what the jazz fans at PA think of him, might start a thread.
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