Prog "Masterpieces" that you couldn't get into

micky wrote: Zappy wrote: I definitely share the missing enthusiasm for IQ's catalogue...and I've tried and tried to like it.... don't sugarcoat it... IQ sucks ..  they don't belong in the conversation irregardless.. who really considers them or anything they did as  'classic'

I like pretty much the entire Pink Floyd catalogue with the exception of The Dark Side of the Moon (although I don't think it's bad, it just never moved me).

For me it's VDGG with the exception of the song "Habit of the Broken Heart", Pink Floyd with the exception of Animals, and Genesis except their triumvirate peak

Edited by DeadSouls - November 01 2017 at 09:26

Well thats a huge list for me

micky wrote: Dellinger wrote: micky wrote: fredyair wrote: I am a 70s prog fan, that's where and when all started for this music and for me too, yes I am old, but the music that never "clicked" for me is most of Genesis' work, don't know why or how, but I don't get it. that is the point... there is nothing to get.. the love is just a product of revisionist fanboyism...  boring.. boring boring.. at least until they found their true callings as a vehicle and backing band for Phil Collins that said... they did have the occasinal spark of prog brilliance.. but far too inconsitent to have anything they did ever be considered classic. Even their 'best' prog album was fatally flawed with a horrid More Fool Me and a compeltely flaccid 11 minute deathmarch... enough to knock a true 5 star classic down to a 4 star flawed masterpiece Exactly what I think of Selling England too... though I'm not so harsh about their whole career... perhaps because I am content just to take out the good songs and enjoy them while I ignore the rest. Also, I could do with "More Fool Me"... not that I like it, but it's rather short and not as annoying as "Battle of Epping Forest". By the way, have you heard the live versions of "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight" and "Cinema Show"... I really love those ones, specially Dancing gets heavier and more powerful... and Collins drumming is just something else (Musical Box is really wonderful live too). oh my dirty little secret is I enjoy a fair bit of prog Genesis.. I'd just never be loony enough to consider any of their albums masterpieces.  Again.. hit and miss... see VDGG.. when they hit ..they were superb.. but much of the time they didn't to my ears. At least unlike VDGG.. they didn't induce blood flow from bodily orifices... they simply just put me to sleep.  Unlike groups like Yes.. they simply weren't that interesting.. perhaps it was simply a matter of talent.. to keep me interesting in what they were actually playing when their songwriting cheekiness and cleverness failed them. Oh yes...  love the live version of Dancing.. not as much so with Cinema show...

If I had to enjoy all the songs from several albums from a band in order to like them, I think I would only listen to 1 or 2 bands. However, I just make my selections and get the best from the ones I love. And yeah, I guess Dancing is better live than Cinema Show, which mostly misses the Aile of Plenty bit at the end of the song... but still I think the instrumental sections are stronger on the live version. Also, there's the Seconds Out version, and I do think that Collins smoother voice fits the song better... but the guitars are rather weaker on that version, and I do kind of miss the flute, even if it's rather short.

Stuff I tried but either didn't "get" / or like.

IQ. Got one album and ... well that will do. I like Spock's Beard more but do I need more than one album? Which is V by the way. A reputation for christian type lyrics goes along way toward not helping either.

Mostly Awful (er, Autumn). Too PF -ish and one of the things that put me off P Tree for a few years. That last one changed a bit for me.

Same goes with that other prog band that worshipped Echoes so much that based their name and identity all around it. Izz was it?

Flower Kings and Wobbler and other bands that seem to be good at playing '70s type prog rock but just sound 20 years too late to the party. And that was 20 years ago...

VdGG.

Radiohead. Ok maybe half of Kid A but why listen to it again? All they did was hear the RIO Avant music and regurgitate it to a pop audience who have zero idea that RIO existed. But did it make the pop audience sophisticated listens. I hope so. I don't think so. I found they needed the Floyd for that and so did they.

GTR's singer.

Tool. I once got two albums and returned them pronto. I don't mind being offended but not bored at the same time. I have one but if there's one thing that that puts this band into a context it's how well they do a cover of No Quarter. Give me Government Mule any day.

Alan White's Ramshackled. 

Non-Fish Marillion. A rehash of Floyd and Genesis is one thing though they were good enough to not get stuck in with other over devoted worship.  There was one comparison of Marillion's singers I liked.  The new guy is the opposite of Fish. Short, sings well,looks good (apparently) great hair (again...), boring lyrics.

lostrom wrote: Scorpius wrote: Well thats a huge list for me 1. I despise suppers ready. Ive tried it many times and never got into it. Foxtrox's A side is great, but to me, Suppers Ready never really goes anywhere, it just meanders meaninglessly for 20 minutes.  LOL!!!  ... well, since that song defines what prog is, perhaps you... well...

The arrogance and elitism in these threads always cracks me up. 

Selling England By the Pound. Firth of Fifth is absolutely brilliant, but the rest of it is good at best in a few places. Easily my least favourite of the three Genesis albums I've heard.