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I would be in favor of this if it provided XTC an opportunity to finally be included here!!!
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Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Without quoting a whole load of the Led Zep posts and taking up a whole page of posts, I would point out to you all that Zep did actually make singles for the pop market. It just so happened that they did this primarily in America, not Britain. However, they did release Whole Lotta Love in Britain, and pulled it as a marketing wheeze in order to capture the cool zeitgeist of the time. Ironically, that song went on to become the iconic theme tune to Top of the Pops, the major UK chart singles show of the time.

Led Zep, Yes, ELP, Deep Purple, The Who, and many others did, in fact, have singles success. They were pop acts, in the sense that pop is a short hand for popular music. They sold albums and singles by the truckload. Which is why I have always been a wee bit perplexed by the aversion to commercial success by so called prog purists. At the time, this lot were the most commercially successful acts on planet Earth.


The US record co pulled singles off albums. There are a whole slew of EPs released in S. America (no new music) just 4 tracks from Fiscal Gravity for example.

WLL was an edit, pulled as soon as it came out in the UK. Saw a copy once going for 550 quid. Now that's commercial.

It did get a CDingle release to help promote a re-titled Tribute To Bert Berns that was found in a rubbish bin. Twenty years later. Bandwagon jumpers they are.

Telling moment - the end of the Earl's Court '75 last concert. Plant's announcing it's time to play their hit. Turns to Jimmy. "Have we got any hits Jimmy?" He says no.

Even when they had hits they weren't singles, the singles weren't hits. Hopeless pop group. How did they get to be so popular? Give the people what they really, really want?
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^ what's your point here with these videos?
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

^ what's your point here with these videos?
Well, Progressive Pop [I don't mean Art Rock i.e. artistic Pop-Rock but 'Pop' that is "progressive"] is rare but can be detected. Maybe Progarchives should have a list of, let's say, ten albums of Progressive Pop.

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^ please stop posting videos of very famous songs. 
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Listen Boboulo/Sventonio, no one is saying that progressive pop doesn't exist. There is more of it than you understand. We just don't want it as another sub gente.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Listen Boboulo/Sventonio, no one is saying that progressive pop doesn't exist. There is more of it than you understand. We just don't want it as another sub gente.

 
as it's been previously stated - we have crossover prog and prog-related. No need for new re-classifications. Smile
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

as it's been previously stated - we have crossover prog and prog-related. No need for new re-classifications. Smile
If Crossover Prog and Prog Related sections cover Progressive pop as well, why The Beach Boys aren't there?
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Originally posted by Boboulo Boboulo wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

as it's been previously stated - we have crossover prog and prog-related. No need for new re-classifications. Smile
If Crossover Prog and Prog Related sections cover Progressive pop as well, why The Beach Boys aren't there?

Are you asking me? 
Maybe because collabs did not find them progressive? 
Maybe they were not suggested or discussed for inclusion. 
Maybe they were rejected... 
TBH I don't know or care. I don't like them that much anyway... 
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Because if the Beach Boys were to be included anywhere in PA they would be under proto prog. Not progressive pop.

Edited by SteveG - September 19 2020 at 18:28
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^ yep. I think our proto-prog and crossover pretty much covers the idea of progressive pop.

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