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That Time article is a fair take on it. It's kind of refreshing to be honest. Another side that I don't hear about often enough is all the workers that are going to be replaced by AI. It's already impacting software companies. Mid-level experienced programmers are getting laid off because entry-level programmers using AI apparently can do the same job for less money. The real catch with that scheme is that the code AI makes isn't easy to understand which means a bug is harder to find.

I work in the academic library field and it is starting to make inroads in my field too. I'm close to retirement and expect my job to be replaced by AI after I retire. It's a culmination of things leading to this: demographics suggest fewer students in higher education, thus less tuition money; state funding continues to drop factoring in inflation; attacks from right-wing ideologues who are now in control of the federal government. Universities have little other alternatives.

So, what is going to happen to the working class in 10 or 20 years? AI has its deepest impact on white collar workers, but blue collar workers are also being replaced by automation probably also run by AI. Sure, there will be some that will adapt to this fast-changing environment and find success, but it's hard not to see how grim this all looks.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:



So, what is going to happen to the working class in 10 or 20 years?

In the interest of humanity they’ve been told they must go.
If you think that it’s pretentious, you’ve been taken for a ride.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2025 at 22:26
Not so easy to smash up the machines as it was hundreds of years ago (and that didn't work anyway). Blake had it right with his 'Dark Satanic Mills' comment.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Valdez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2025 at 22:58
Was it Biden who said “Learn how to code” ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Awesoreno Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 12 2025 at 23:38
^I'm not going to suggest we get political, so this is a PURELY (US) HISTORICAL comment. The transition away from jobs centering on manufacturing with an implication of shifting the unskilled workforce towards skilled jobs likely involving computers really began with Clinton, and has somewhat continued through most of the 21st century here in the States. But now even computer-skilled workers can get replaced by AI. And often times data entry jobs are now just AI training. We've been unwittingly succumbing to crowd-sourced AI training for years whenever we have to do those Captcha things to prove we're human.
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Perhaps we will have to prog to prove we are human?

In all seriousness though... it all started with the industrial revolution and perhaps now humanity is on the precipice of making subsistence work obsolete.   If we train the machines on ourselves, will our cruelty or our empathy also enter into the equation?   

Does the puritan work ethic run into a wall with AI?   I felt the TIME article was fresh, not for its fear and questions but for the philosophical implications. AI generally tries to give a quick answer, whether it has a relevant sample of information to give one or not and humans have been trained to accept quick answers through poor education.   

We live in interesting times... for some its too interesting.
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