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40footwolf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2010 Status: Offline Points: 651 |
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I can't say so-King Crimson was extremely disjointed until they found their footing with the Bruford/Wetton/Cross lineup. Their consistency of tone combined with a more fervent desire to experiment outside of traditional prog boundaries made some of the best music ever, as far as I'm concerned, prog or not.
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Heaven's made a cesspool of us all.
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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So let's get to the meat with regard to LTIA. It all begins with that kalimba, maybe some bells or other percussion, I dunno what is that shimmering stuff hanging 'round, but we end up with some little bit of violin, little bit of Frippery. Little bit of Bruford playing some wrong notes. Little bit of growling Wetton bass. An inscrutible Fripp solo. Violin birds what's not to like? Book of Saturday is a nice sort of ballad-like piece of music. Nice Frippery, backwards and forwards. Exiles yeah ya may need some help with this one, but I hear nothing that would make me turn away and run, given that it's strong in epic KC terms. Easy Money will and does kick anyone's ass. To this day. Talking Drum same thang. LTIA Two need not even be discussed it's so good. Overrated? This is as good an album as has ever been made. |
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Tapfret ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 12 2007 Location: Bryant, Wa Status: Offline Points: 8634 |
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Something to never get tired of:
John Myung extremely overrated? Isn't Bob Marley overrated? Anyone else think that "Tommy" is overrated? AYREON : Human Equation overrated ? Sgt. Pepper- Overrated Harry potter overrated. Could Yes be much more overrated? Doors LA Woman grossly overrated Do you think John Bonham is overrated? Thick As A Brick overrated? Is Vanilla Ice Cream overrated? Is Pink Floyd overrated?? Most overrated prog band? Just how overrated is Stairway to Heaven?. GENESIS is highly overrated, Overrated Genesis? A very bad (Genesis overrated) genres = overrated DSOTM OVERRATED!! Genesis, may be overrated? is Yes "Close To The Edge" overrated Pink Floyd is overrated are CAMEL overrated ? are porcupine tree overrated ? Dream Theater overrated? Prog is Overrated The overrated "Close To The Edge" Overrated Side of the Moon Dream Theater,the most overrated progband PoS is terribly overrated. Karnataka : overrated ? Surprisingly, there were only 7 topics with the word overrated spelled incorrectly. Haters gonna hate. |
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Hawkwise ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 31 2008 Location: Ontairo Status: Offline Points: 4119 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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People who use overrated and underrated should be berated as they make me irated.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Snow Dog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
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I was wrong as it turns out. Anyway I prefer Larks over the two following albums. In other words, of the Wetton era, Lark,is my favourite.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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I like LTIA and Red. Red is better, but from their earlier days I would say that Lizard and Islands are better than LTIA, and perhaos on a par with Red.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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BlindGuard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 05 2009 Location: Israel Status: Offline Points: 182 |
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Even now after 40 years from its release the album still ground-breaking and magnificent, it has passed the test of time - a Timeless classic. Larks' will live after us. Think of the year 1973 and try to imagine the first time people heard that. Edited by BlindGuard - December 02 2010 at 07:49 |
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tamijo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 06 2009 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 4287 |
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Its a troll or a
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Disjointed ....I would think to make that reference pointing out only one specific detail and that would be the lack of security Fripp had or felt during his long and painful journey to even keep ONE particular line up together. But, to do 4 titles like that with un-stable prospects and each one has individuality musically is quite a accomplishment for a musician/writer. I don't know how in the world he pulled that off? The times when they did stretch out and improvise could be sampled more so on tracks like "The Sailor's Tale", "Bolero", "Battle Of The Glass Tears", 21ST Century Schizoid Man", "Pictures Of A City", "Indoor Games", "Happy Family" and even "Moonchild" (but is noodling).
The idea to improvise in pieces during the so-called Symphonic era, was not so much limited in the improvisation itself as it was in the time frame of the song. I loved Larks, Starless, and Red but yet was disappointed sometimes in the chord progressions used during the improvisations. Fripp was the fulltime tri-tone explorer during this period, while on early Crimso titles, the tri-tone usage was carefully written in a shorter passage to compliment the approach in composition....like Symphonic for example. To me, the pieces "Red", "Larks Tongues In Aspic Parts I & II , Fracture, and the center section of "Starless" were all reminiscent of each other and a bit obvious. |
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Stooge ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 09 2009 Location: Toronto, Canada Status: Offline Points: 1003 |
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I like LTIA far too much to tell whether or not it's overrated, so I guess I overrate it.
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Henry Plainview ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
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I'm not a fan of LTIA and Red and ITCOTCK...
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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I used to be. Now I have just about as much desire to listen to K.C as I do to watch Glenn Beck.
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LinusW ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 27 2007 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 10665 |
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For me it sure seems like it. But in reality, it's mostly just rated.
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Evolver ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5484 |
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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Prog_Traveller ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
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Lark's tongues is probably my favorite KC album. I like the first few a lot also. Were KC ever a symph prog band? The first two probably come the closest but they always had avant garde and jazzy tendencies. Those Bruford/Wetton albums are just very special to me. There was something about them I just can't put my finger on. So my top five would be the three Wetton/Bruford and then ITCOTCK and ITWOP and lizard being a close sixth. Lizard is great but it's a bit weirder and I have to be in the mood for it(even more so for islands which is maybe a bit too out there even for KC although I love "ladies of the road"). The eighties and nineties and more recent stuff is good and has it's moments but none of it really holds a candle to their first incarnation as a band(note I didn't say first lineup since that only lasted one and a half albums ;) ). LTIA is easily in my top ten list of all time albums.
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Svetonio ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
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KC is my fav British progrock band. But, I'm not fan of ITCOCK, and WOP. My fav five albums by KC are 1. Lizard 2. Lark's Tongue In Aspic 3. Islands 4. Discipline 5.The Power to Believe, so I don't think that Larks is "overrated". Couldnt be, IMO, because Larks is masterpiece. Also, it was pretty inovative an album at the time when it was issued, a fresh air from KC without a doubt. Edited by Svetonio - December 03 2010 at 01:54 |
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