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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2011 at 20:20
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Camel's Snowgoose


Despite not intending to be.Wink
They came up with the titles and the supposed "inspiration" after they made the album?


No, they wanted readings from the book but were not allowed  to.
Haha, I didn't know that.

Neither did I, but it doesn't count as he said "instrumental bands", and Camel aren't.
I think Snowgoose is entirely instrumental but I may be wrong.


There are some vocalizations in there but it is mostly instrumental...
I would recommend the live version in "A Live Record", simply amazing!

Another recommendation if you like Zehul and Avant-Prog: Dun's Eros... inspired on Frank Herbert's Dune
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2011 at 20:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 03:32
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

 
RE Snowgoose, I think it's a concept album even if it's fully instrumental because the way the themes and motifs are developed and re-deployed in various parts of the ensemble actually create a "narration" of sorts.

Buy the book and you get the story.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 05:48

I think it's a concept album even if it's fully instrumental because the ways the themes and motifs are developed and re-deployed in various parts of the group actually create a telling of sorts.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 07:18
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

 
RE Snowgoose, I think it's a concept album even if it's fully instrumental because the way the themes and motifs are developed and re-deployed in various parts of the ensemble actually create a "narration" of sorts.

Buy the book and you get the story.


Interesting. Does the musical narration manage to emulate that from the book? That would be quite an achievement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 07:24
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

 
RE Snowgoose, I think it's a concept album even if it's fully instrumental because the way the themes and motifs are developed and re-deployed in various parts of the ensemble actually create a "narration" of sorts.

Buy the book and you get the story.


Interesting. Does the musical narration manage to emulate that from the book? That would be quite an achievement.

I think so. More or less. As I said originally it was meant to have narration from the book between the tracks I believe or maybe over the sound in parts. The estate of the author wouldn't allow it though. I do have a BBC radio play of it though, which I could send to you if you want.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 08:11
^ I'd love to!

Peter And The Wolf has spoken parts between sections if I'm not wrong, I liked the album but I remember not finding it a great achievement concept-wise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 11:51
I've always really enjoyed 'Slow Dance' by Anthony Phillips.  Don't really know if you'd call it 'concept' - but the music has a recurring theme.

And please check out my album, 'The Water is Wide Variations', which just happens to be an instrumental concept album (choose cd over downloads for full musical effect and 12-page booklet).  It's already receiving glowing comments/airplay on internet radio ('The Dividing Line', 'Aural Moon').  If you like your prog on the classical/ambient side, it could be for you - listen at alfleeman.com

To Gnomonaut - I enjoyed listening.  To be honest, I like my music with more of an emotional tug, but there are some really interesting riffs/phrases going on.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 12:44
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 12:46
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.

It's OK. I like a lively pedantic discussion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 12:54
Pat Metheny's "The Way Up" is a monster record and I think certainly qualifies.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 13:31
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.


Actually no, the OP came back to say he didn't mean exclusively instrumental bands, just instrumental albums (see above) Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 13:33
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.

It's OK. I like a lively pedantic discussion.


Much better than an ideological or religious debate IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 13:34
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.


Actually no, the OP came back to say he didn't mean exclusively instrumental bands, just instrumental albums (see above) Wink

You can't claim you knew that sorry.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 13:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 13:48
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.


Actually no, the OP came back to say he didn't mean exclusively instrumental bands, just instrumental albums (see above) Wink

You can't claim you knew that sorry.


I made that claim before he returned to clear things.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 15:50
Thanks for commenting, Al. I checked your stuff out and thought it sounded great. Not as riff-centered and edgy as ours, but it definitely takes the listener to a great place.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2011 at 15:56
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by irrelevant irrelevant wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Instrumental Concept albums?


That is the thread title...the truth is in the detail.

Why should it matter if it's an instrumental band or not? So long as the albums mentioned are instrumental concept albums why would it be a problem?  
It isn't a problem for me. Believe me. I couldn't give a toss.


I wish I hadn't started it now, but I was just pointing out that the OP clearly stated instrumental bands, so I assumed he meant bands that only recorded instrumentals, which Camel clearly are not.


Actually no, the OP came back to say he didn't mean exclusively instrumental bands, just instrumental albums (see above) Wink

You can't claim you knew that sorry.


I made that claim before he returned to clear things.

yes I know. I was there. But you couldn't know his intentions. It turns out you were right, but i was always technically correct. It was the fault of a badly worded post. Not my error.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2011 at 11:32
Godspeed You!Black Emperor - YANQUI U.X.O. (2002)
Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven (2000)
 
Great stuff.
 
I think that movie soundtracks can be seen as conceptual as well. At least it's an interesting source if you like instrumental concept albums. I'm not saying that all film scores are like conceptual albums, most of it is made for functioning as background music to enhance the visuals. But the best soundtracks can stand on their own, independent of the movie.
 
"Alfred The Great" by Raymond Leppard is a favourite of mine. Orchestral soundtrack in medieval style, not very good recording quality though. I also like Vangelis 1492, and Blade Runner. Also Ryuichi Sakamoto's "Silk". I could recommend more, but its not a film score thread after all.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2011 at 01:41
Does Return to Forever's Romantic Warrior count? It is quite cohesive and the titles of the tracks have some relationship between each other...

Gryphon's Red Queen to Gryphon Three

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