Jazz Giants!

from this Jimmy Smith, Evans and Coltrane close..  no John Lewis or Oscar Peterson ?

thehallway wrote: dreadpirateroberts wrote: Appreciate the two vote option, so I voted for Hancock and Coltrane. I agree with Guldbamsen, a diverse player and leader/composer is Herbie. I was looking for Freddie Hubbard to vote for, but I;m not saying that to complain. Interested to see what the jazz fans at PA think of him, might start a thread. I did have him on the list! But I had to remove one to fit Charles Mingus in....... who is more popular I'm afraid. The first time I actually heard Hubbard was on a Billy Joel song . But since I've discovered his own work I loved him. I would actually say he trumps Miles Davis in terms of skill.

Wow! I understand your choice, Mingus is doubtless more influential too.

Was it 'Zanzibar?' Interesting track for Billy, those music in the verses has a seedier feel than I usually expect from him, though the chorus has that pure pop sound. And Freddie's solo is a bit of a mini 'Hubbard Sampler', huh?

I often feel that (not being a brass player mind) that Hubbard does beat Miles. I think I find that Freddie can be more lyrical (though neither player was going for that all the time of course) and some of Hubbard's energetic solos are more exciting to me.

Herbie Hancock, because I think his Mwandishi-period albums were more interesting than Miles Davis' fusion period. Following in second place is Miles Davis himself, and third is Jean-Luc Ponty.

dreadpirateroberts wrote: Sean Trane wrote:   why don't we take this discussion on the JMA forum??? Isn't this the 'General Music Discussion' Thread? Or do you mean, you want this discussion there and you'd like to join in?    I haven't registered there yet and that might be great - though I'm sure that in a Jazz forum, in a debate about Miles VS Freddie, my arguments wouldn't stand up to those offered by jazz musicians and dedicated jazz fans!

Benny Goodman? - who first brought jazz first to Carnegie Hall in January 1938 - definitely ranks high over Scott Joplin, who had been largely forgetten until Joshua Rifkin's ragtime recordings of Joplin compositions, popularised in part as the OST of the Sting movie. And George Gershwin surely doesn't belong as much as Maurice Ravel doesn't - but nevertheless apparently took lessons in jazz from Bix Beiderbeck!!! - and Paul Whiteman (the so-called King Of Jazz) is a common link

Dick Heath wrote: Benny Goodman? - who first brought jazz first to Carnegie Hall in January 1938 - definitely ranks high over Scott Joplin, who had been largely forgetten until Joshua Rifkin's ragtime recordings of Joplin compositions, popularised in part as the OST of the Sting movie. And George Gershwin surely doesn't belong as much as Maurice Ravel doesn't - but nevertheless apparently took lessons in jazz from Bix Beiderbeck!!! - and Paul Whiteman (the so-called King Of Jazz) is a common link

Sorry I couldn't include everyone......

And also nobody wants to read your yellow fonts on JMA, Hugues.  They are extremely hard on one's eyes.

thehallway wrote: Less than 2?  Reminds me of Yestalk........

Excluding JFF, Suggest New Artists, and the What Are You Listening to thread, it's 34.9 per day. It's hard to see how, but the forum has only been open to the public for 3 months, so that's not many posts. That number is increased by the posts made before April, and the current activity has also dramatically fallen off since it opened and everyone from PA came over to make a few posts, but I really don't care enough to figure that out and take it into account.

And yeah Sean, your yellow font on JMA is unbearable.

Edited by Henry Plainview - July 06 2011 at 13:15

Henry Plainview wrote: Coltrane from the list, although I probably would have voted for Albert Ayler or Peter Brotzmann if that were available. Sean Trane wrote:   why don't we take this discussion on the JMA forum??? Well, nobody posts there, it's much easier to have a discussion on a forum that people actually read. I may have done the math wrong, I am bad at calendars, but as far as I can tell, excluding the JFF and Suggest New Artists sections, JMA has averaged fewer posts per day than Matt.

thehallway wrote: Sean Trane wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: Coltrane from the list, although I probably would have voted for Albert Ayler or Peter Brotzmann if that were available. Sean Trane wrote:   why don't we take this discussion on the JMA forum??? Well, nobody posts there, it's much easier to have a discussion on a forum that people actually read. I may have done the math wrong, I am bad at calendars, but as far as I can tell, excluding the JFF and Suggest New Artists sections, JMA has averaged fewer posts per day than Matt.     Yeah, I agree with your mathematics, but it's not with this kind of attitude that will make the JMA forum grow   I guess that the MMA forum is also suffering from the same low-posting problem, despite getting a year's headstart on JMA...     Strange how, on the internet, Prog is the most popular genre!