List 5 bands with more than 5 Masterpieces

harmonium.ro wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Anthony H. wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Magma of course.  Could just about pick any 5 of their albums but I will pick these as my masterpieces: -Magma aka Kobaia -1001 Centigrades -Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh -Kohntarkosz -Attahk Art Zoyd's first five albums sound like masterpieces to me. Can: -Monster Movie -Tago Mago -Ege Bamyasi -Future Days -Soon Over Babaluma King Crimson (haters etc) -In the Court -Lizard -Islands -Lark's Tongues -Starless and Bible Black Pink Floyd (see above) -Saucerful of Secrets -Ummagumma -Atom Heart Mother -Meddle -Obscured By Clouds edit: Oh and TD's first 7 are masterpieces, of course Jethro Tull, Isis, Neurosis, Primus, Boris (f**k y'all they so prog), Swans (likewise), Agalloch (if you count EPs), Opeth, and Kayo Dot also come to mind. I could have listed some crazier bands but decided to mostly stick to what more people listen to. I think your criteria for "masterpiece" is a bit too loose, man. I think just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not somebody else's slice of perfection. Why do you think Anthony doesn't like those albums?

Well he obviously doesn't like them as much as me

Floyd (Piper, Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, Animals, WYWH, The Wall, Division Bell)

Triceratopsoil wrote: Anthony H. wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: Magma of course.  Could just about pick any 5 of their albums but I will pick these as my masterpieces: -Magma aka Kobaia -1001 Centigrades -Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh -Kohntarkosz -Attahk Art Zoyd's first five albums sound like masterpieces to me. Can: -Monster Movie -Tago Mago -Ege Bamyasi -Future Days -Soon Over Babaluma King Crimson (haters etc) -In the Court -Lizard -Islands -Lark's Tongues -Starless and Bible Black Pink Floyd (see above) -Saucerful of Secrets -Ummagumma -Atom Heart Mother -Meddle -Obscured By Clouds edit: Oh and TD's first 7 are masterpieces, of course Jethro Tull, Isis, Neurosis, Primus, Boris (f**k y'all they so prog), Swans (likewise), Agalloch (if you count EPs), Opeth, and Kayo Dot also come to mind. I could have listed some crazier bands but decided to mostly stick to what more people listen to. I think your criteria for "masterpiece" is a bit too loose, man. I think just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's not somebody else's slice of perfection.

       

Rush(A Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures but i could go on and on)

I'd have to join those who say none.  I consider a masterpiece to be a pretty rare thing (top 5%), even a great band would be lucky to have one or two.  

I'm going with none as well. I can think of some bands that have made near-masterpieces + masterpieces that add up to 5 or more albums. But I can't think of any artist that has made 5 or more full blown masterpieces. I think that's damn near impossible.  

Finnforest wrote: I'd have to join those who say none.  I consider a masterpiece to be a pretty rare thing (top 5%), even a great band would be lucky to have one or two.

  

trackstoni wrote: Finnforest wrote: I'd have to join those who say none.  I consider a masterpiece to be a pretty rare thing (top 5%), even a great band would be lucky to have one or two.         OUFFF !!!    then you believe all these albums aren't Masterpieces !!!?  do you want me to start counting more than 21 bands & 11 artists with more than 5 Masterpieces !!!   it seems you have a very tight idea & limited knowledge regarding our Archive  , if you are a musician yourself , you know what i'm talking about , sometimes rates aren't really accurate ,  however , my best  Masterpieces in 42 years are simply excellent albums or simply good ones in your site , Lark's Tongues in Aspic & a Passion Play are the best can be done so far , Red , ITCOCC , & TAAB don't even come close to them , Tales from Topographic &  Relayer are the best Masterpieces in Yes discography , and as a musician myself , i don't care if Close to the Edge was rated as #1 or not !   So , the main issue here , there was a word in my question listed above <<<<   in your opinion , disregarding any musical sites   >>>>  have a nice day my friend Finn  !

You've asked for our opnions and thats what your getting, most people wont give 5 stars to 5 albums from any one band (though there are exceptions). And you've just given your opinions on a bunch of albums, but IMO Yes never made any masterpieces, they were only a mediocer band.

The only way I can create a list here is by classing all of the Toby Driver led bands together, so that I get:

maudlin of the Well- Leaving Your Body Map
maudlin of the Well- Part the Second
Kayo Dot- Choirs of the Eye
Kayo Dot- Blue Lambency Downward
Kayo Dot- Coyote

No one else comes close to having 5.

I'll mention six..

I gave these Art Zoyd albums five stars, but five stars does not really mean masterpiece to me as it does mean, I really love this album and if people like similar music to me, they might too (all a matter of taste, pretty much, anyway):

ART ZOYD Faust
ART ZOYD Génération Sans Futur
ART ZOYD Häxan
ART ZOYD Les Espaces Inquiets
ART ZOYD Musique Pour L'Odyssée
ART ZOYD Symphonie pour le jour où brûleront les cités

I have only given Berlin, Le Mariage..., and Phase IV four stars, but I feel I was being conservative.  Berlin, of late, has been my most listened to Art Zoyd, by the way.  And I would give a it a 5 today, and I did bump my Faust rating from a four at one time....  I love it, but if I were to remove one from that list it would be Faust.  But in another sense, I think of Generation sans Futur as being the masterpiece by Art Zoyd even if I love lots of the group's albums, and have had particular du jour faves (ones I craved at certain times).  I consider Art Zoyd's albums up to and including Berlin very strong, and the 90's Haxan  and Faust very strong.  I also regard more recent albums very highly.  |I do wish Art Zoyd was, generally-speaking, better-known and respected at PA. 

MAGMA:

MAGMA Ẁurdah Ïtah (Christian Vander)
MAGMA 1001° Centigrades
MAGMA MDK
MAGMA Kohntarkosz
MAGMA Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré
MAGMA Magma (Kobaïa)

There is no Magma studio album that is not essential to my collection, and I could add KA.  Still, Kobaia is my favourite album my Magma, and so it is the real masterpiece for me.


HELDON:

HELDON Heldon IV: Agneta Nilsson
HELDON Électronique Guérilla
HELDON Interface
HELDON Stand By
HELDON Un Rêve Sans Conséquence Spéciale

Un Reve... has been my particular favourite.

UNIVERS ZERO:

UNIVERS ZERO Univers Zero (1313)
UNIVERS ZERO Ceux Du Dehors
UNIVERS ZERO Heresie
UNIVERS ZERO Uzed
UNIVERS ZERO Heatwave
UNIVERS ZERO Clivages


Perhaps the most consistently excellent band in PA according to my tastes.  Every album I think excellent.  The debut is my particular fave, and so I would call that the true masterpiece (a masterpiece can be considered the best work, according to the rater, and there can only be one real best work while different people, of course, consider different ones to be the best work even if there is sometimes a popular or general concensus).

TANGERINE DREAM:

TANGERINE DREAM Alpha Centauri
TANGERINE DREAM Atem
TANGERINE DREAM Electronic Meditation
TANGERINE DREAM Phaedra
TANGERINE DREAM Zeit 'Largo In 4 Movements'

I don't like Phaedra as much, but I still recognise it to be an excellent album.  Zeit is my favourite of them, so that is the real masterpiece to me of them.

PRESENT

PRESENT Triskaidekaphobie
PRESENT Le Poison Qui Rend Fou
PRESENT Certitudes
PRESENT High Infidelity
PRESENT No. 6

Le poison is my particular fave, followed by the debut, and  I consider those, especially as a double-album release, the real masterpieces. Guess I don't really cnsider all of those masterpieces under evena wider purview, as some I would rate with four stars.

That said, this whole masterpiece concept doesn't mean much to me.  I would get rid of the masterpiece term from the ratings descriptions.  To me masterpiece means a work that excels more than anoy of the other works by an artist, but of course what is a masterpeice is very subjective.  Sometimes it can mean something that is widely held to be outstanding.  When I list so many per band, it ceases to be that outstanding.  But how does one in some cases choose one work as partiaulrly great when there might be various ones that are equally great or great in different ways.  I might enjoy a band's 80s outpout just as much as a bandd's 200s output, but the styles mighty be very different, and so both can be masterpeices for their period etc.  I'd prefer to say that these are albums that I have loved and have considered essential to my collection.  I'm not sure even about listing all of these albums, but I do think these are examples of very strong ones from bands that have been very strong.



Edited by Logan - July 15 2011 at 10:00

ergaster wrote: trackstoni wrote: Finnforest wrote: I'd have to join those who say none.  I consider a masterpiece to be a pretty rare thing (top 5%), even a great band would be lucky to have one or two.         OUFFF !!!    then you believe all these albums aren't Masterpieces !!!?  do you want me to start counting more than 21 bands & 11 artists with more than 5 Masterpieces !!!   it seems you have a very tight idea & limited knowledge regarding our Archive  , if you are a musician yourself , you know what i'm talking about , sometimes rates aren't really accurate ,  however , my best  Masterpieces in 42 years are simply excellent albums or simply good ones in your site , Lark's Tongues in Aspic & a Passion Play are the best can be done so far , Red , ITCOCC , & TAAB don't even come close to them , Tales from Topographic &  Relayer are the best Masterpieces in Yes discography , and as a musician myself , i don't care if Close to the Edge was rated as #1 or not !   So , the main issue here , there was a word in my question listed above <<<<   in your opinion , disregarding any musical sites   >>>>  have a nice day my friend Finn  ! Not Finnforest, but being of the same mind I have to say: Calm down.  In MY opinion it is impossible for any band to have more than one or two masterpieces, because in MY OPINION the very word "Masterpiece" implies something very special and rare.  This has nothing to do with any ratings on PA or anywhere else.  I was listening to prog long before the internet was invented, let alone ProgArchives. What you seem to consider a Masterpiece is what I would call a damned fine album but not at the Masterpiece level, with a few exceptions. So we have answered your question and paid attention to the "in your opinion" part.