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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 06:54
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

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I don't know about that, in my opinion the Danzig cover I posted simply screams 'metal!', while the Sabbath cover says something along the lines of 'this is what Mona Lisa would look like if she had been painted in the 1970's outside an English country cottage in the autumn'. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 07:05
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Yes there is - in my world, the women on the Electric Ladyland cover aren't being pawed over by Jimi Hendrix
Fair enough, we´ll just have to agree to disagree, and I´ll contribute no further to this thread.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 08:02
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Yes there is - in my world, the women on the Electric Ladyland cover aren't being pawed over by Jimi Hendrix

That cover is like anti porn. Shows the women in a very harsh unerotic way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 09:59
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Yes there is - in my world, the women on the Electric Ladyland cover aren't being pawed over by Jimi Hendrix

That cover is like anti porn. Shows the women in a very harsh unerotic way.


You mean they look like real women do when naked i.e. vulnerable, flawed, beautiful, emotive?
(I think most people have a resistance to the voyeuristic cartoon sexuality that some metal graphics portray)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 11:21
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Yes there is - in my world, the women on the Electric Ladyland cover aren't being pawed over by Jimi Hendrix

That cover is like anti porn. Shows the women in a very harsh unerotic way.


You mean they look like real women do when naked i.e. vulnerable, flawed, beautiful, emotive?
(I think most people have a resistance to the voyeuristic cartoon sexuality that some metal graphics portray)

No. I'd go further and say they are shown in an intentionally unflattering way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 19:38
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Yes there is - in my world, the women on the Electric Ladyland cover aren't being pawed over by Jimi Hendrix

That cover is like anti porn. Shows the women in a very harsh unerotic way.


You mean they look like real women do when naked i.e. vulnerable, flawed, beautiful, emotive?
(I think most people have a resistance to the voyeuristic cartoon sexuality that some metal graphics portray)

No. I'd go further and say they are shown in an intentionally unflattering way.


Interesting perspective which garners some support here:http://www.sixtiescity.com/Mbeat/mbfilms12.htm

The idea for the cover came from Chris Stamp and David King, art director of Track Records. Stamp sent King and photographer David Montgomery to the Speakeasy club in Margaret Street to get some girls who were offered £5 a head to pose for the sleeve and £10 if they agreed to pose with their knickers off. One of the 19 girls, Reimie Sutcliffe, told the music paper Melody Maker, “It makes us look like a load of old tarts. It’s rotten. Everyone looked great but the picture makes us look old and tired. We were trying to look too sexy, but it didn’t work out.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 20:02
Obviously, the most metal album cover has to be the Spinal Tap soundtrack.  None more black, as they say.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2012 at 20:07
And for the record, this is the ORIGINAL Electric Ladyland sleeve.  No, the one with the nekid girlies was not the original.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 04:25
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

And for the record, this is the ORIGINAL Electric Ladyland sleeve.  No, the one with the nekid girlies was not the original.





You are in error I'm afraid. The naked girls is definitely the original cover. Don't know who told you otherwise.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 04:29
I believe the naked girls cover was the original album cover for the UK version, while the flaming head was the original US one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 04:31
^Was it? In that case I am in error.Embarrassed

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 04:36
Mr Claypool is correct, though neither were the cover that Hendrix wanted:
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 05:49
I know you're not supposed to rely on Wikipedia as a source, but it has the following:

"The original North American-only Reprise release album cover featured a "fiery" photo of Hendrix' head. The slightly later Track/Polydor International album release cover, controversially, was a photo of a group of nude women, which was only replaced after Experience Hendrix took control of Hendrix' recordings."

Unfortunately it doesn't list dates other than the original release date.  If anyone has any further info, do tell.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 11:36
But it all depends on the metal subgenre :
- glam has (nude) women in languishing positions and/or long-haired guys with make-up
- power has fantasy characters
- black has corpse-painted people or sinister landscapes / greek mythology-inspired characters
- death has ghouls, zombies, demons or cadavers
- grindcore has severed corpses
- thrash can be very diverse in terms of artwork
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:05
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

I know you're not supposed to rely on Wikipedia as a source, but it has the following:

"The original North American-only Reprise release album cover featured a "fiery" photo of Hendrix' head. The slightly later Track/Polydor International album release cover, controversially, was a photo of a group of nude women, which was only replaced after Experience Hendrix took control of Hendrix' recordings."

Unfortunately it doesn't list dates other than the original release date.  If anyone has any further info, do tell.

It's messy. The Jimi Hendrix Experience was signed to a British label (Track Records) that had a distribution deal with Reprise in the USA. Hendrix's choice for the cover was the Linda Eastman (aka Linda McCartney) picture of the the Experience with some children by the Alice In Wonderland sculpture in Central Park, NY - Track rejected that and commisioned the Montgomery nudes picture and release the album in the UK and the rest of the World with that cover; Reprise rejected that and chose the Ferris picture and released the album in the USA with that cover 9 days earlier than the UK release (I have to take the person who told me that's word for that as I cannot find the actual release dates). Our policy here is to use "the earliest front cover as released in the artist's home country" - this caused arguments here because while Hendrix was American, the Hendrix Experience was 2/3 British, signed to a British label and managed by a Brit, Chas Chandler -  Wikipedia gives the origin for The Jimi Hendrix Experience as London, England - I maintain that is why we should have used the Montgomery nudes, but I was over-ruled because Hendrix was an American and Reprise jumped the gun on release dates (apparently).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:11
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:21
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

I know you're not supposed to rely on Wikipedia as a source, but it has the following:

"The original North American-only Reprise release album cover featured a "fiery" photo of Hendrix' head. The slightly later Track/Polydor International album release cover, controversially, was a photo of a group of nude women, which was only replaced after Experience Hendrix took control of Hendrix' recordings."

Unfortunately it doesn't list dates other than the original release date.  If anyone has any further info, do tell.

It's messy. The Jimi Hendrix Experience was signed to a British label (Track Records) that had a distribution deal with Reprise in the USA. Hendrix's choice for the cover was the Linda Eastman (aka Linda McCartney) picture of the the Experience with some children by the Alice In Wonderland sculpture in Central Park, NY - Track rejected that and commisioned the Montgomery nudes picture and release the album in the UK and the rest of the World with that cover; Reprise rejected that and chose the Ferris picture and released the album in the USA with that cover 9 days earlier than the UK release (I have to take the person who told me that's word for that as I cannot find the actual release dates). Our policy here is to use "the earliest front cover as released in the artist's home country" - this caused arguments here because while Hendrix was American, the Hendrix Experience was 2/3 British, signed to a British label and managed by a Brit, Chas Chandler -  Wikipedia gives the origin for The Jimi Hendrix Experience as London, England - I maintain that is why we should have used the Montgomery nudes, but I was over-ruled because Hendrix was an American and Reprise jumped the gun on release dates (apparently).

Not just you Dean. There were many of us in favour of the nudes cover. I still very much am. Any other cover looks completely wrong to me. I will never agree with current PA policy on this.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:29
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Not just you Dean. There were many of us in favour of the nudes cover. I still very much am. Any other cover looks completely wrong to me. I will never agree with current PA policy on this.
*shrug* it doesn't make a whole heap of difference to me - I will treasure my original UK gate-fold vinyl copy regardless of what the PA or the Hendrix Foundation (hawk...spit!) think is the "original".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Not just you Dean. There were many of us in favour of the nudes cover. I still very much am. Any other cover looks completely wrong to me. I will never agree with current PA policy on this.
*shrug* it doesn't make a whole heap of difference to me - I will treasure my original UK gate-fold vinyl copy regardless of what the PA or the Hendrix Foundation (hawk...spit!) think is the "original".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2012 at 12:35
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:



http://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/1255/cover_61510442008.jpg
 
lol, they should learn french before giving a french title to an album. In french, it should indeed read "la mascarade infernale".
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