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Poll Question: what is the best band
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Then how can you say all of their epics are just riffs being dragged on?

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Well it's an exaggeration but there's too much of that... I think it's pretty clear they don't have as much going on as the early 70's giants, and thus are suited more to compact songs.

Xanadu is a fantastic song though. 11 minutes range can work for them.
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My vote goes to Kansas, no doubt! Violins and all, if Focus would be included then not. However I seem to be the only person who prefers instrumental Rush of everyone, with vocals especially early Rush that high pitch (no pun intended) reminds me of the chipminks. Instrumental Rush for a 3 member band are incredible tho' even compared to 4 or 5 member great bands,
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

My vote goes to Kansas, no doubt! Violins and all, if Focus would be included then not. However I seem to be the only person who prefers instrumental Rush of everyone, with vocals especially early Rush that high pitch (no pun intended) reminds me of the chipmunks. Instrumental Rush for a 3 member band are incredible tho' even compared to 4 or 5 member great bands,
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Kansas- The Pìnnacle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYIiHAhIdo
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Thank you Kati.  Once people realize Kansas was not two or three radio songs, then good!

And hell, even the radio songs were good!  Big smile
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Points: 6253 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2013 at 21:45
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Thank you Kati.  Once people realize Kansas was not two or three radio songs, then good!And hell, even the radio songs were good!  Big smile



hahahaha!!!! Epignosis!!! true ditto!!!! They were brilliant really only has to listen to the above track I posted hahahaha and loved even more what you said "!And hell, even the radio songs were good! " hahaha   
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Thank you Kati.  Once people realize Kansas was not two or three radio songs, then good!And hell, even the radio songs were good!  Big smile



hahahaha!!!! Epignosis!!! true ditto!!!! They were brilliant really one only has to listen to the above track I posted hahahaha and loved even more what you said "!And hell, even the radio songs were good! " hahaha   
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Kansas- The Pìnnacle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCYIiHAhIdo
 
Great track Kati......love listening to those early lp's by them.
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

My vote goes to Kansas, no doubt! Violins and all, if Focus would be included then not. However I seem to be the only person who prefers instrumental Rush of everyone, with vocals especially early Rush that high pitch (no pun intended) reminds me of the chipminks. Instrumental Rush for a 3 member band are incredible tho' even compared to 4 or 5 member great bands,


I thought you said Geddy sang like a Muppet.

Kansas is consistently awesome up through Vinyl Confessions. After that, I can cherry pick some really good tunes, like "Desperate Times" and "Musicatto."
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Thank you Kati.  Once people realize Kansas was not two or three radio songs, then good!And hell, even the radio songs were good!  Big smile



hahahaha!!!! Epignosis!!! true ditto!!!! They were brilliant really only has to listen to the above track I posted hahahaha and loved even more what you said "!And hell, even the radio songs were good! " hahaha   


I still need to explore the rest of Kansas' catalog, but everything I've heard from them is great.  I know they're listed as symphonic but in my mind they're the perfect crossover band: at once catchy, rocking and accessible and meaningful, complex and clever.  Pretty much the pinnacle of classic rock, and a worthy prog band.
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Damn.  Nektar is getting no respect.   I saw all three bands live back in the day.  Rush and Kansas couldn't  lick the sweat off Nektar's dirty, rusty strings.

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Impossible to really chose between Nektar and Kansas, but I voted for Kansas.  Kansas is growing on me because I never gave them a chance before, because I was discovering the classic English, German, and Italian stuff.  Rush never grew on me, I even became less into them as time went by. Nektar has very classic material but so far I find has too much of a rock edge in much of their material that doesn't seem to be the kind I find that interesting.   I wish Nektar could have produced three  times as much of their good proggier stuff.  That would have been interesting.  I like their stronger stuff more than I like Kansas, thus it's impossible for me to chose but I did at the time with some optimism for Kansas.  

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Points: 22767 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2013 at 01:43
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Originally posted by twseel twseel wrote:


Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I don't really care for any of them.


This, I think they are all quite average and over-hyped.


Rush...average?? Can't say I agree with that. Nothing average about that band. Listen to Hemispheres and tell me what is 'average' about that album.
It's epic symphonic hardrock, but not much more than that. From what I've heard(2112 and Moving Pictures multiple times, Hemispheres once), I don't hear much of interest to me. I think it's quite basic hardrock, not much different from what was being made ten years before them.
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They had their own approach, and some fairly unique chords, which definitely separate them from say, Deep Purple. Is there a slight jazz element to their chords? Maybe.
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Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

They had their own approach, and some fairly unique chords, which definitely separate them from say, Deep Purple. Is there a slight jazz element to their chords? Maybe.
Lifeson indeed tends to avoid the usual tri-tone rock chords and uses instead a lot of alterations and open strings, this and the use of chorus / flanger gives him a very personal sound.
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Points: 5153 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2013 at 04:21
I like Nektar but they were never among my favourite bands, I did not discover them in the 70's and by the time I discovered them (somewhere in the 90's I guess) they felt a bit like the precursors to AOR, in particular Albrighton's voice.
If I could split by timing, the vote for the 70's would go to Kansas and for the 80's and beyond to Rush. Considering the overall careers, Rush without hesitation, even if Kansas returned strongly with Somewhere To Elsewhere.
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Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

They had their own approach, and some fairly unique chords, which definitely separate them from say, Deep Purple. Is there a slight jazz element to their chords? Maybe.
Yeah I like that, but that doesn't make a world class band for me.
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Rush>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kansas>>Nektar
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Nektar, for the high regard I give their first album. I would've voted for Rush otherwise.
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