"Freedom" thread or something

Yeah pretty much.
I see you've finally caught on to my ways, it's all good I caught on to you and stopped asking why repeat what I said

Deff agree, no more corporatist measures are needed here that's for sure.
Best way would be totally voluntary.

Which is ironically what SS is "supposed" to be.
We make "contributions" to this "retirement account" for "our future" isn't that right???



Edited by JJLehto - May 10 2012 at 07:55

Curious:
If that happened, would you support everyone currently receiving SS benefits to continue receiving what was promised?
Or are you one cold sonuvabitch?

Exactly why I was wondering.



Probably no surprise, I'd support it. Obviously not the fairest situation to us but eh...call me a softy.
I may be wrong about this assumption, but since it was ruled in courts we don't own our benefits...I guess technically the government would not need to continue paying to anyone.

I don't know where to put this so it's going here. I just heard this argument put forth by a college professor, a colleague of mine from the Literature department. If I could stand talking to this woman for more than 2 seconds I would have intervened.

Her: "Why is your generation so much dumber than previous ones?"

Student: "I don't think it is. It might even be smarter because of us going to college and having the internet."

Her: "That's ridiculous. Your generation is so lazy and stupid and never will accomplish anything."

Student: "My generation has done things, just look at all the technological developments over the past years."

Her: "What does that even matter? Like you can't have a jet without the Wright brothers. So your generation might build a really fast jet, but that's just something the Wright brothers did. You haven't done anything."

I had to include labels or you would not have known which is the professor and which is the student.

Me and this professor previously got into an argument regarding whether Thomas Jefferson was an author of the Federalist papers. I explained that John Jay was the third author. I explained that Jefferson was an anti-federalist and would not have agreed with them on many issues, Hamilton especially. I also explained that at the time of the Federalist / Anti-Federalist argument being written and published, Jefferson was in France. She still kept disagreeing with me. She's a moron. Her favorite book is probably Twilight.

She's also incredibly condescending as you can see.


Edited by Equality 7-2521 - May 10 2012 at 12:33

I think the samples have changed. More people are going to college. THe additional people going over past generations are the marginal students intellectually. So we have more unintelligent or less intelligent people going to college, but the actual percentage has not changed. 

But I think the actual sum of human intellect is going up. Or culture, or achievement. More people have access to more tools to attain higher achievements. The defining factor in humanity isn't innate intelligence, it's the degree to which we use tools to achieve accomplishments. 

^The net is the greatest thing to be invented IMO. 

Perhaps there have always been people graduating high school with minimal literacy skills but now those folks are attempting to go to college (or at least Community College), mainly because the modern workplace requires those skills.

As a society, we don't have alot for unskilled, marginally educated (but often good folks with good street smarts) people to do. In the past, we needed these folks by the numbers.

Since this is the libertarian thread....
IDK how accurate this is but some do say the increasing amounts of federal aid for college are sending more marginal students into the system, when normally they would not be.


I will agree Negoba, a degree is so much more valuable today, there is an incentive to get one even if maybe it's not best for you.
I'm just not sure, it seems there is less of a need for those people (thus a reason to pursue college) but I just don't know what the markets are like.