The American Politics Thread

I think it was inevitable. With the Corona travel restrictions in place, America had no choice but to attack itself this year.

Ronstein wrote: SteveG wrote: I'm not sure how many times it needs to be said in this forum and out, now that the Trump crowd killed one of their own, the support of law enforcement and the few in the military has shrunk. Not seen anything in this thread or anywhere else to indicate that personally, can you point me in the right direction? I certainly hope you're right, America turning in on itself will be a disaster for the whole world if it happens.

Perhaps, or maybe it's the purge that's required to move into a new America. Don't get me wrong, it's extremely disheartening to witness what's going on but maybe these insurrectionists need to be put down in the same fashion that they themselves think things need to handled like. If you've seen the footage, the shot that killed the female protester drove back the crowd very quickly. In my personal opinion, every one of those law enforcement officers had the absolute right for weapons free options as their lives were definitely in danger (witness the officer beating with a fire extinguisher). If it had been a small handful of insurrectionists and not a massive crowd I doubt anyone would have said word one about them defending themselves and the capitol building. (think the attack we had on our parliament in 2014).


Edited by JD - January 12 2021 at 05:43

QAnon & "Stop the Steal" woke up the Deep State Leviathon

And you get that from just them opening barricades, posing for selfies, and holding doors open for them on the way out?

JD wrote: Perhaps, or maybe it's the purge that's required to move into a new America. Don't get me wrong, it's extremely disheartening to witness what's going on but maybe these insurrectionists need to be put down in the same fashion that they themselves think things need to handled like. If you've seen the footage, the shot that killed the female protester drove back the crowd very quickly. In my personal opinion, every one of those law enforcement officers had the absolute right for weapons free options as their lives were definitely in danger (witness the officer beating with a fire extinguisher). If it had been a small handful of insurrectionists and not a massive crowd I doubt anyone would have said word one about them defending themselves and the capitol building. (think the attack we had on our parliament in 2014).

If you're a member of a bank robbers' gang employed by the bank as a security guard and open the bank doors for them, you don't get to say "woopsy" afterwards when people get shot, even if your guard colleagues attend the funerals afterwards. Especially if some of those who died were bank guards.


Edited by npjnpj - January 12 2021 at 06:52

I don't think that Biden will be very safe, especially as there hasn't been time to root out the bad apples in his protection. I would think it's pretty overwhelming if the straight cops have to keep a close eye on both the crowds and on each other.

The threat is officially present in all 50 states. I wouldn't bank on anyone's safety.

@npnpj: Of course not. But bank on the violent being shot at in return. That's what's important.

Edited by SteveG - January 12 2021 at 07:10

Easy Money wrote: SteveG wrote: Let's get real for at least a moment. At the beginning of the protest, before the crowd charged into the Capitol building, the DC police were outnumbered 200 to 1. That they didn't have sufficient numbers to do anything is lost on all the anti police voices in this thread. Were there some simpathizers before the violence started? Of course. Many cops voted for Trump. But after the violence and deaths, that changed. And after more than a 1000 police officers saluted the body of Officer Sicknick as it passed from the Capitol yesterday, that re-enforced their stance even more. Now, I don't know what type of half assed news media some members watch, but even common sense should tell you what's up. True, the FBI does not like white supremacists, there is a long history there. Law enforcement was caught by surprise here and that won't happen again. Sorry to disappoint those of you who are gullible for hysterical media click bait, but the number of people who are willing to get violent over this is not that great. There will be some more incidents here and there, but the FBI and others are closing in on them.

I hope that you are right John, but an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure.