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con safo 
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 Posted: September 22 2005 at 18:24 |
One of my favourites! if not my very favourite! Peter Hammill's Vocal
skils are unmatched, and the bands compositional skills are amazing!
Sure they may not be virtuosos but they definitely know their
instruments and how to compose an amazing song. Listen to sleepwalkers
and tell me that VdGG is not one of the most amazing bands to ever
create music!
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Fragile
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 18:35 |
I dislike whisky Snowdog and will only drink it as a last resort I've drunk it in Blackpool,drunk it Bournemouth Saw Stevie Vai last year along with Satriani and almost walked out due to the virtuoso tedium.
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SlipperFink
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 19:04 |
 Trouserpress wrote:
SlipperFink wrote:
Hammill has no peer as a rock lyricist.
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I must disagree with you there. What about Ian Anderson?
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Surely you jest. Ian Anderson puts forth a noble effort, I've been a fan for 35 years. However... His lyrical impact is much more reliant on his singing delivery. And Cliver Bunker was the best Tull drummer. Hands down. Just letting you know. HOHOHO. SM.
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Fragile
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 19:13 |
oh what a tangled web we weave on here
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Titan
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 19:28 |
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i agree, VDGG is really great band, overlooked.
i love especially these 5 albums:
The last we can do...., H to H, Pawn hearts, Godbluff, Still life
and others are great !
Edited by Titan
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 19:51 |
SlipperFink wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
SlipperFink wrote:
Hammill has no peer as a rock lyricist.
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I must disagree with you there. What about Ian Anderson?
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Surely you jest.
Ian Anderson puts forth a noble effort, I've been a fan for 35 years.
However...
His lyrical impact is much more reliant on his singing delivery.
And Cliver Bunker was the best Tull drummer.
Hands down.
Just letting you know.
HOHOHO.
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I jest not! Anderson is hands down my favourite lyricist of all time. A
dab hand with the metaphor, a razor sharp wit underpinning a
sympathetic soul and an ability to spin the most mundane of events into
something profound. His lyrics are memorable, literate, clever,
humourous, touching, thought-provoking and poetic. I'll take them over
Hammil's melodramatic scrawlings any day.
Edit: Oh, and this is a little off topic but I must point out that your website's gorgeous.
Edited by Trouserpress
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SlipperFink
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 20:51 |
Trouserpress wrote:
I jest not! Anderson is hands down my favourite lyricist of all time. A
dab hand with the metaphor, a razor sharp wit underpinning a
sympathetic soul and an ability to spin the most mundane of events into
something profound. His lyrics are memorable, literate, clever,
humourous, touching, thought-provoking and poetic. |
Outstanding observations. You sir, know your sh*t. Let us agree to disagree on this. SM.
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horza
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 20:57 |
I don't really get VDGG 
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 21:27 |
horza wrote:
I don't really get VDGG |
What would you expect from a Whoresass?
.....sorry........thats it now.........finito!
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Progger
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 21:32 |
| For some strange reason, I always get a sickly feeling when I listen to Hammill's voice. Reminds me of 'The Excorcist' movie!!! |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:29 |
SlipperFink wrote:
Outstanding observations.
You sir, know your sh*t.
Let us agree to disagree on this.
SM.
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Do let's.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 05:59 |
horza wrote:
I don't really get VDGG |
Give it time ... there's no hurry. My favorite is currently H to He, I find it quite accessible. I only know single songs of their other albums though.
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Harold Demure
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 07:37 |
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When I was discovering VDGG, then I didn't really liked them at all. Listened to it few times and, like Snow Dog, thought it was dull, boring etc. So I stopped to listen to it.
After about week or two I tried once again, and was immediately blown away by the album 'Pawn Hearts'.
I advise everyone who wants to get into VDGG to do the same.
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You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
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Proglover
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 15:50 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
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..............oh by the way.....NetsNJFan....are you telling me that Peter Gabriel was not melodramatic???????????????? |
yep. I'm one of the rare people though who prefers Collins to Gabriel as a vocalist. 
I always felt Gabriel was dramatic, Hammill over the top with it.
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Umm, you must not like theatre, the movies, acting, or opera.
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Proglover
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Posted: September 24 2005 at 15:55 |
After all this I still feel that people are not giving VDGG the credit they deserve. Many of you while seeing that the bands writes great music, still insist that the band individually are not very skilled players. They are not as FLASHY as Keith Emerson but that certainly does not mean that they are not well established and accomplished musicians. Perhaps many of you are not aware of just how COMPLEX their music is, and what it takes to play music like that. They play in very very complex time meters, displacing the beat like it was natural. And once again, brilliant composition on top of all that makes for an exciting band!!!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 19:15 |
Proglover wrote:
After all this I still feel that people are not giving VDGG the credit they deserve. Many of you while seeing that the bands writes great music, still insist that the band individually are not very skilled players. They are not as FLASHY as Keith Emerson but that certainly does not mean that they are not well established and accomplished musicians. Perhaps many of you are not aware of just how COMPLEX their music is, and what it takes to play music like that. They play in very very complex time meters, displacing the beat like it was natural. And once again, brilliant composition on top of all that makes for an exciting band!!!
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Very condescending of you Proglover, but that not why I've revived this thread!
After now hearing Godbluff and Pawn hearts, I reckon I'm a fan.......now what's next!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 19:25 |
Hey, I missed a VdGG thread. Never mind, I didn't have anything to add, except: great band, both live as well as on record. Great vocalist, Peter Hammill. Well, that's my little contribution to the thread  .
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micky
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 19:44 |
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Interesting thread,
I only have two... H to He and Pawn Hearts. Not exactly a fav
group but like them enough to order last week the remaster of
"The Least We Can Do.....' I'm sure I'll like it like the
others.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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moonlapse
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 22:17 |
I just received Pawn Hearts a couple weeks ago, and thought it was
fantastic. So had to order H to He, Godbluff, and Vital...just
got them a few days ago and have only listened to H to He so far...also
great. I think Hamill is a great vocalist and the musicianship is
top-notch. Have The Least We Can Do... on order now too.
Just noticed on the Opeth forum a couple nights ago that Mike
Akerfeldt's playlist for September 2005 included Pawn Hearts.
Mike is not only a great musician and performer, but he also has great
taste in music 
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The Green Tank
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Posted: November 06 2005 at 22:20 |
I'm listening to some VDGG right now. I've gotten into them recently but I totally plan to buy "The Least we can do.." "H to He..." "Godbluff" and "Pawn Hearts" if I can find them.
By the way: Snow Dog, your avatar is awesome.
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