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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3115 |
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Well, to my ears, what Haken does better than Riverside (usually) is make their tracks more interesting and varied. Riverside HAVE been consistent, and I haven't detected much of an evolution in their sound. Now, the evolution can be for better OR for worse. And that'll be up to personal taste as well. I liked the progression of Haken's music from Aquarius through Affinity (Visions probably also my favorite, though I think The Mountain is their most quintessential album), as well as the Restoration EP. I'm not as big on Vector/Virus. Fauna was a grower. Riverside, on the other hand... I can't really think of too many of their tracks and hear them in my head. Granted, I have spent less time getting into them. But I do respect them, and their atmospherics are well produced. But they're missing the exciting factor. Once again, this is all subjective. But Haken have remained influential amongst many newer prog/metal groups. I have read less on Riverside's influence (though they certainly have been influential). The Flower Kings on the other hand? How many retro symph/neo bands cite TFK specifically as influences? I'm sure they like them, who wouldn't if you play that kind of music? But most of those groups get right to the heart of it and cite Yes before they'd cite TFK.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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At the same time, quite a few bands on this list obviously can't be said to be among the 50 most appreciated Prog bands all-time which is maybe the weakest point, as it could be argued that these three sub-genres are less relevant in Progressive Rock context.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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octopus-4 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14901 |
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At least they are all prog artists, regardless the position in the list. -- INCLUDING VANGELIS -- (just to renew the debate)
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13377 |
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I'm amazed they found 50 bands to list.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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One more list according to somebody's opinion.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21806 |
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Haken do not sound like Riverside at all - now I'm not sure whether you're just trolling ![]() Leprous are definitely cool, and the vocals are somewhat unique. Definitely innovative. But Haken are branching out more and more into Jazz-Fusion and Djent. Aquarius had a unique concept, and it was cool how they made Cockroach King into its own story across several album. Then there was the 80s-retro thing with Affinity. Haven't checkout out Leprous in great detail yet, but that's a tall order to beat ...
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essexboyinwales ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: April 27 2015 Location: Bridgend Status: Offline Points: 5352 |
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Pitfalls by Leprous is a fantastic album😎
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Heaven is waiting but waiting is Hell
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King Crimson <3
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30268 |
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Riverside are a beast of a band and should be included but I dont' see them competing with Haken who are more metal orientated. Riverside are more from the Led Zep strand of rock music to my ears.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 30268 |
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let me guess Yes, Genesis and Floyd
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TheLionOfPrague ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 08 2011 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1091 |
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This, pretty much.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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I find RYM's and PA's top lists to be clearly more representative for the generel appreciation of various Prog artists, even they're not easy to recalculate from albums to bands, and there's quite a difference in their definition of Progressive Rock.
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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suitkees ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 19 2020 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 9050 |
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Well, duh. Of course they are more representative since the RYM and PA lists are based on a popularity amongst their respective communities (votes of their members), whereas - as they clearly state - the Ultimate Classic Rock list is based on the opinion of just a couple of music critics. Their list does not aim to be representative of anything else than their (those few critics) opinion. Don't read anything else into it.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 45236 |
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I'm mystified as to why The Mars Volta and Tool are rated so highly too, especially considering they have about as much appeal to me as a rusty old spanner.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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good to make this clear and keep it in mind |
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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![]() https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/all-time/g:progressive-rock,progressive-metal/pop:4/ Edited by David_D - July 23 2023 at 16:49 |
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enigmatic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 554 |
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![]() Edited by enigmatic - July 23 2023 at 18:04 |
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3115 |
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^Because their appeal to any of you or me or anyone else on this forum means nothing in the face of their influence and critical success in the larger music-listening sphere.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 15801 |
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When comparing RYM's chart with PA's top list with regard to Tool and The Mars Volta, there's a big difference concerning their ranking, but I guess that RYM's chart is closer to the general appreciation of these two bands than PA's top list - even not necessarily among proggers when talking about Tool.
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