Marillion

I would say Fish DOES sound a bit like Gabriel with some of the bitterness of Peter Hammill's delivery in the mix. Yet, his voice is still very distinctive and I'd say they lost that distinctiveness when Steve Hogarth joined who has a rather less distinctive voice, imho. The band nowadays seem to have taken on a rather slowburning style which takes a long time to go anywhere- personally I prefer the more immediate style of the Fish era, sorry to say.

I couldn't pinpoint anything save the climax of Grendel being especially derivative of Genesis on their earlier albums anyway, but my personal favourites are Misplaced Childhood and especially Clutching At Straws where I think they totally transcended any accusations of plagiarism.

I enjoy Season's End but don't go a bundle at all on the Hogarth albums I've heard- Brave, Marbles and Holidays In Eden.

What exactly is the 'latter first wave of prog' anyway?
    

Edited by salmacis - January 09 2007 at 09:38

Snow Dog wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Intruder wrote: Not a fan but respect their direction and chops....I've only heard their first few and, like many, I see them as a bit too derivative of the latter first wave of prog.  Out of interest, in what way do you hear them as "derivative of the latter first wave of prog"? Can you give examples? (and don't try telling me that Fish sounds like Gabriel, because I won't believe you ) Well........he does sometimes.

Fish uses the same theatrical style but with a lot more agression than PG.

Certif1ed wrote: Talking of definitions, has anyone seen the revised Typical Characteristics of Progressive Rock on Wikipedia recently? Feel free to start a thread on them - you'll never guess who submitted them... I'll finish the job soon - then I'll move onto the subgenres

    
so you're the one responsible for this:

Early progressive eock groups added additional instrumentation to the typical rock group lineup


so,Cert,what's a progressive "eock" group?

For me Marrilion ended with the departure of Fish. I saw them twice during that era and have all their albums from the Fish years. They were so refreshing when they arrived on the scene in the early 80`s. Script For A Jester`s tears just blew me awy and I couldn`t stop listening to it. It was a signal that prog was not indeed dead.

Oh! Lucky you. Is it a live performance or are you going to be gathered around a CD player with other party-goers? Either way, make sure to give us the good news! The new one is supposed to have a more earthy and organic feel than the rather deep Marbles.

You know, I'm listening to Camel's I Can See Your House From Here and I don't find it particularly proggy. Especially "Your Love Is Stranger Than Mine". Seems Marillion get called out a lot, but it's not limited to them I bet.

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Tristan Mulders wrote: I'M INVITED TO AN EXCLUSIVE PRE-LISTENING PARTY FOR MARILLION'S NEW ALBUM OVER HERE IN AMSTERDAM IN FEBRUARY!!!!thought I'd share my happiness with you all!peace

Man, I envy you. Full report! OK, Tristan?

Echoing what Freak said, I've also heard that there aren't the many layers that Marbles has. A bit more stripped down and a lot of foot stompers.

I've got the deluxe edition of Marbles on in the car's player and it really is a brilliant disc. Definitely the best disc I've bought in the last 10 years.

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iTunes: "Remote Romance" from Camel's I Can See Your House From Here

im a huge fan, and have been for about a month. i discovered them a year ago, and ever since them have been shoving as much as i could into my ears.

but it was only until about a month or two ago that i really actually understood why they are so good.. i had somewhat of a revalation that they are one of the most amazing bands out there.

personally, i prefer h over fish. i can relate with his lyrics more and i think he just has a better voice. also, i really connect with a musician if i like how they perfom live.. from all the dvd's i've seen, h is the best frontman i've ever seen, from a live performance standpoint (and this isnt really fair to fish, because i've never seen him perform live).

i love the neo-prog sound. very loungy.. mostly mellowish. can't get enough of it.

E-Dub wrote: Tristan Mulders wrote: I'M INVITED TO AN EXCLUSIVE PRE-LISTENING PARTY FOR MARILLION'S NEW ALBUM OVER HERE IN AMSTERDAM IN FEBRUARY!!!!thought I'd share my happiness with you all!peace Man, I envy you. Full report! OK, Tristan? Echoing what Freak said, I've also heard that there aren't the many layers that Marbles has. A bit more stripped down and a lot of foot stompers. I've got the deluxe edition of Marbles on in the car's player and it really is a brilliant disc. Definitely the best disc I've bought in the last 10 years. E iTunes: "Remote Romance" from Camel's I Can See Your House From Here

Of course you're allowed to envy my luck..

I'll try and do my best regarding my function as 'reporter'

Marbles is a great album but I hope this new one's a bit more like 'Afraid of Sunlight', i.e. a mixture of atmosferisch/epic songs and rock segments.

I don't know very many of their tunes...but I like what I do know pretty well...I'll eventually pick up more by them....Not easy to find on store shelves in the US, they are much bigger in the UK I believe, not well known here...