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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:37
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

What it looks like to an outsider and layman on web design (and so I might be a bit unfair) is that you are simply lazy. You apear to be trying to continuously "adapting" the site instead of "rebuilding" it from scratch, because that would be too much work. 
It's more refining or fine-tuning of the site, which isn't broken so a redesign is unnecessary
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:49
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

M@x is looking at the best way to remove Proto prog and Prog related form the middle of the genre listings on the front page. They will still be there of course, but shoudl be shown separately from the prog genres.


A first step forward honestly Clap

 
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Points: 2492 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:51
I don't think he meant it that way: more like "it's honestly a step forward" rather than criticizing the site
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Points: 3497 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 15:56
I think there was an accidental confusion (by Bob) between "honestly" (an adverb) and "honesty" (a noun).
 
Uwe meant it as an adverb.
 
 
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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 16:02
Ok... I enter in the discussion...  And I spend 2 cents!!! 

For me Prog Related is too ambiguous how is now.  But I would not know like change.  I haven't them the just knowledge.

But, I am secure of what I say(!!!), for the Proto Prog has been correctly to create a team because is an autonomous and real sub genre. Clear this team should create a genre bio.  Because, to difference of the PR the Proto is recognized what sub genre from everything and in unequivocal manner. 

So I have expressed and I hope that someone it is all right with me.  Because first or then this proposal I would have done it.  Since the matter is me at heart. 


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I wonder if there would be any benefit to mixing both of the non-prog genres, since many of the "proto-prog" bands didn't just stop once the clock hit January 1, 1970, and it's probably true that some of the "prog-related" bands influenced prog as much as prog influenced them.

Just brainstorming...
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Points: 17601 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2007 at 17:02
Originally posted by 1800iareyay 1800iareyay wrote:

I don't think he meant it that way: more like "it's honestly a step forward" rather than criticizing the site


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You've got it , 1800iareyay
That's the way I wanted to express - please excuse my unprecise english  ...


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Points: 5851 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 11:19
Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Ok... I enter in the discussion...  And I spend 2 cents!!! 

For me Prog Related is too ambiguous how is now.  But I would not know like change.  I haven't them the just knowledge.

But, I am secure of what I say(!!!), for the Proto Prog has been correctly to create a team because is an autonomous and real sub genre. Clear this team should create a genre bio.  Because, to difference of the PR the Proto is recognized what sub genre from everything and in unequivocal manner. 

So I have expressed and I hope that someone it is all right with me.  Because first or then this proposal I would have done it.  Since the matter is me at heart. 


About the underline section of my previous post that I have quoted... Who is your opinion?


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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2007 at 11:43
As you have started a new thread on that topic Mandie, let's not duplicate that discussion here.
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 09:46
M@x has now updated the homepage so that PP and PR are at the end of the genres list, and in an alternative colour.Clap
 
(Sorry, I know this was discussed in another thread, but I'm not sure which one!Embarrassed)
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2007 at 09:54
Erm, don't want to be picky, because it's a great idea, but I think the alternative colour is a bit bright - it's like a highlight. Geek
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Points: 46828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2007 at 13:41
*bump*

seeing  the Coheed and Cambria discussion..


again....what about renaming Prog Related ....  this is getting old quickly...
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

*bump*

seeing  the Coheed and Cambria discussion..


again....what about renaming Prog Related ....  this is getting old quickly...
Too many people see:
 
 Prog Related
 
...and seem unable to see past that.
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Points: 46828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2007 at 14:22
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

*bump*

seeing  the Coheed and Cambria discussion..


again....what about renaming Prog Related ....  this is getting old quickly...
Too many people see:
 
 Prog Related
 
...and seem unable to see past that.


exactly...as was noted by a certain collab some time back.. whose brains.. match her beauty.. LOLHeart

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

I am a linguist by background, which means I know how important the correct wording can be. Many people only see the 'prog' part in PP and PR, as well as seeing both categories listed together with the 'real' prog genres. Moreover, I think 'proto-prog' is a misnomer, as it implies the bands and artists included in the category were prog before prog came into being, not that they influenced its development (as it is often the case).
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Points: 15585 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2007 at 17:06

I don't perceive a lot of enthusiasm for the proposal among the memebrs or collaborators. Personally i think the name is quite adequate. As suggested, PR and PP have been removed from the alphabetic list of genres and presented in a different colour to address any perception issues.

I don't think there has been an alternative proposed which met with any sort of enthusiasm either.
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Points: 46828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 29 2007 at 17:08
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

I don't perceive a lot of enthusiasm for the proposal among the memebrs or collaborators. Personally i think the name is quite adequate. As suggested, PR and PP have been removed from the alphabetic list of genres and presented in a different colour to address any perception issues.

I don't think there has been an alternative proposed which met with any sort of enthusiasm either.


fair enough... let the other collabs deal with these posters then. I am the one having to explain this.. not them.
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