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Drew
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 20:42 |
The new Blackfield
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Drew
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 20:43 |
irrelevant wrote:
But wouldn't it be boring if every music thread here was unanimously positive? Variety I say! |
Thank you If you don't like 'negative' threads- then don't read them!
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Luna
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 20:44 |
Alitare wrote:
We all care, or else we wouldn't be wasting time talking about it. I REALLY hate the new Dream Theater, Opeth, Mastodon, and Metallica albums. f**k Porcupine Tree. There, I said it. Steve Wilson's about as untalented as Brian Wilson was talented. I want juice! To hell with CSI: Miami. It's free-floating hostility week here at Prog "full-of-sh*t" Archives. Winners receive lifetime tickets to all upcoming Glass Hammer concerts. Proceeds will be spent toward resurrecting Fran(z)k "Cough-ka" Zappa(holic) for the sole purpose of farting in President Obama's milk-bowl. I hate them so much it makes me pee on my socks. Can't you just feel the importance of this rising up from my pasty white-ass skin, homie? |
Were you trying to make a point?
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Alitare
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 20:48 |
Solar, let me clearify so that you maye undersit.
The Message: We all care, or else we wouldn't be wasting time talking about it.
Not the message: Anything with swear words.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 22:06 |
dtd350 wrote:
Let the bands make the music THEY want to do and some people will like it and some people will not...who cares. |
If nobody cared, they wouldn't buy flight tickets to travel a thousand miles or so to catch Metallica. They wouldn't scream their throats out the way we did when we saw Iron Maiden for the first time. If I didn't care, I wouldn't have gone into such a wild state of ecstasy after a performance of Beethoven's Ninth as to walk over to a nearby sea facing promenade and embrace the breeze with outstretched arms. People do care, and some care a lot. If they didn't, artistic engagement loses all meaning and relevance, like this Lulu album. Post modernism is a highly destructive illusion and I wish people would pay no heed to these bookish philosophers and just pursue what they believe in with zest because it's nothing to be ashamed of.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 22:09 |
I like that last post some.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 27 2011 at 22:13 |
I'd like to add...in the absence of any sense of intrinsic value, money eventually becomes the measuring rod of worth and that in turn is decided by the marketplace and what it seeks to pay for something. And the marketplace is not always fair or correct but it votes with its feet.
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Any Colour You Like
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 00:14 |
Drew wrote:
The new Blackfield
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It's pretty mediocre, but it's hardly prog. It's still good pop rock.
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Kotro
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 07:46 |
Got to hear Lulu via streaming twice now (second time on headphones), and I have to say I really don't understand the hatred. It's no masterpiece (and that is more because of lenght than content), but it's hardly a bad album. It has great tracks and it has lesser tracks, like your average record. I could do without James Hetfield, but apart from that, not much to point out. Personally it's the best album I've heard featuring Metallica, and I will definitly be listening to it again.
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Bigger on the inside.
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 16:41 |
zappaholic wrote:
TheMasterMofo wrote:
I'm terrified to actually listen to "Lulu" because I've been a Metallica fan since I was 10 years old, started playing guitar because of James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett, and I'm pretty positive that this album will be absolutely horrible. St. Anger wasn't good as an album, but it at least had a few redeemable qualities.
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To me, Metallica ceased to exist when Newsted left (I know, for most people the dividing line was Cliff's death). The people calling themselves Metallica now are impostors.
And with the possible exception of New York, Reed hasn't done anything to merit my attention in many, many years.
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Newstead was definitely my favorite Metallica bassist of all time; My Friend of Misery has one of the coolest sounds ever. The whole atmosphere of that song is something special that's always stood out since the first time I ever heard it. Rob is a pretty talented bassist, and a good performer, but not the writer that Newstead was. I really enjoyed Death Magnetic though; it was a really strong album in all regards IMO. The whole concept for Lulu just scares me as it seems so foreign. Maybe it will allow Metallica to make their way on PA!!
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Any Colour You Like
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 16:49 |
Metallica are on PA.
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 17:03 |
Any Colour You Like wrote:
Metallica are on PA. |
Wow, I've been coming to this site for years and never even noticed that...
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Horizons
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 19:32 |
Because they shouldn't be.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 19:40 |
This is a somewhat interesting post I read about it
this album is obviously terrible and thus fascinating. the best description i've seen for it was someone (dilloway?) calling it "outsider art." which makes sense if you think of the life experiences of metallica dudes and lou - completely, utterly outside any kind of normal, relatable, human life experience for the last however many years. |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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The T
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 19:41 |
Any Colour You Like wrote:
Metallica are on PA. |
But not for Lulu.
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Failcore
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 19:48 |
Horizons wrote:
Because they shouldn't be. |
One of the more retarded additions.
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Alitare
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Posted: October 28 2011 at 20:02 |
^Yeah, like Nightwish, Savatage, Black Sabbath, most power prog, and Lady Ga Ga.
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rogerthat
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 00:26 |
Old Metallica is as much prog as Strawbs, Heep, most of Renaissance mk-2 and loads of other stuff from the 70s largely accepted as prog. Unfortunately, they are punkish and aggressive rather than 'sophisticated' and 'technical', not a good thing at all, ya know.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 09:29 |
Deathrabbit wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Because they shouldn't be. |
One of the more retarded additions. |
One of the more retarded posts. Watch it.
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TheMasterMofo
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Posted: October 29 2011 at 09:56 |
Horizons wrote:
Because they shouldn't be. |
I can see the argument for them to be on the site and the argument against...
The argument for would be that Metallica has always been changing their
approach to music; they more or less made thrash metal popular in the
mainstream, made heavy metal/rock popular in the mainstream, and tried
several very unique approaches to recording music. "And Justice For All"
has a lot of time signature and tempo changes.
The argument against would be that most of their music, though often
experimental or changing, uses straight time signatures and has a common
song structure. Their time signature explorations were also often
accidental rather than deliberate, but I'm not sure if that's a knock
against their musical knowledge or a compliment for their creativity. I've always seen Metallica as the ultimate pioneer of metal, I just didn't think they'd be listed here.
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