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mechanicalflattery
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Posted: September 08 2016 at 14:19 |
Lewian wrote:
Some of these songs like Carpet Crawlers and Never Let Go are difficult to explain... the melody gets you or not and if it doesn't, it's all but hopeless to explain what makes them great. Something in some songs (including these two) resonates deeply with me, and nobody piling up arguments why they're overrated or what not will take this away from those who get the magic.
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I actually do like both songs, and would agree that they have rather good melodies. For me, my conception of music tends to go beyond pure melody and into harmonic interactions, textures, overall atmosphere, and spontaneity. Something like Moon in June (which I'm not even a particularly big fan of) has a realness and a depth that a straightforward, structured song like Never Let Go can't quite achieve. Melody to me is very face value, surface level enjoyment, but it alone cannot make a great song. There's a dynamic living quality to certain genres such as the avant garde or more "eclectic" prog groups such as VDGG that makes them endlessly re-discoverable, whereas Carpet Crawlers has an immediate pleasantness that reveals little else. To each their own of course, and I'm being slightly hypocritical, since there are certain Camel songs that I hold in immensely high esteem. Never Let Go always felt like the "sell out single" of that album. Camel knew how to write music, but they never had much to "say" so to speak, which itself, is fine. But where the other songs are content within themselves, Never Let Go attempts a message and sentiment that it can't quite internally verify, making it clear that the writers were just trying to be inspirational for the sake of selling records. Art motivated by populist opinion never turns out particularly well.
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Posted: September 08 2016 at 15:48 |
mechanicalflattery wrote:
For me, my conception of music tends to go beyond pure melody and into harmonic interactions, textures, overall atmosphere, and spontaneity. Something like Moon in June (which I'm not even a particularly big fan of) has a realness and a depth that a straightforward, structured song like Never Let Go can't quite achieve. Melody to me is very face value, surface level enjoyment, but it alone cannot make a great song. There's a dynamic living quality to certain genres such as the avant garde or more "eclectic" prog groups such as VDGG that makes them endlessly re-discoverable, whereas Carpet Crawlers has an immediate pleasantness that reveals little else. |
This is all good to read and I can't say much against it except that when magic happens, magic happens, and rational criteria lose their power. And that there's something to be said for simplicity; if you have a good melody, your job is no more than to serve it the best way you can.
Never Let Go attempts a message and sentiment that it can't quite internally verify, making it clear that the writers were just trying to be inspirational for the sake of selling records. |
If you can't "verify it internally" it doesn't mean nobody can. Your lack of internal verification is certainly not enough (and even not much, if any at all) evidence that "the writers were just trying to be inspirational for the sake of selling records."
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Posted: September 08 2016 at 16:13 |
Lewian wrote:
This is all good to read and I can't say much against it except that when magic happens, magic happens, and rational criteria lose their power. And that there's something to be said for simplicity; if you have a good melody, your job is no more than to serve it the best way you can.
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I agree that this isn't a conflict between simplicity and complexity, I listen to lots of minimal music, but would disagree about serving the melody. There are countless songs with catchy, interesting melodies, many of which tend to dominate the charts. I've had "Renegades" by X Ambassadors stuck in my head for the past week because it has a very catchy, "earworm-y" hook for a chorus. But for the life of me, I can't remember how the rest of the song goes. They placed so much emphasis on the melody that they forgot to create an interesting song. The melody serves the song, not the other way around, and should always be balanced by other elements at play.
If you can't "verify it internally" it doesn't mean nobody can. Your lack of internal verification is certainly not enough (and even not much, if any at all) evidence that "the writers were just trying to be inspirational for the sake of selling records." |
The basic chorus, and effectively the "message" of the song is as follows
Man is born with the will to survive, He'll not take no for an answer. He will get by, somehow he'll try, He won't take no, never let go, no...
The writers make a direct and potentially disagreeable assertion about the world and humankind, namely that civilization will not end because mankind can endure or something. They make no attempt to justify this claim. Obviously a song doesn't need literal footnotes, but generally a basic writing process involves some manner of cause-effect "if X, then Y" framework used to demonstrate a claim. Much like many simplistic pop anthems of self-empowerment, love, or happiness (Pharrell Williams' Happy is an excellent example), we have here a Y but no X, no causal explanation. Pharrell Williams is happy. Why? Who knows! Camel believes that mankind will endure. Why? Who knows... Chances are, if the band is suddenly attempting to offer some sort of definitive commentary on the nature of the world, on an album that otherwise doesn't really concern itself too much with ontological assertions, it might have something to do with the fact that audiences generally gravitate towards inspirational lyrics, although exceptions always exist.
Again, I am a fan of Camel, I sort of like Never Let Go (although it's probably my least favorite song on that album), and I tend to agree with you on music. Anyone who likes Talk Talk's latter two albums clearly has some taste...
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Posted: September 08 2016 at 16:36 |
Fair enough. I never had problems with the lyrics of this song but they are quite marginal to my appreciation of it, and I can see how somebody who finds lyrics more important than I do (in most cases) can have an issue with them. Personally I don't mind whether Camel believe what they say here or not and whether they make a good case for their claim, which I think is not the job of a song. I have at least thought about the statement of the song a few times, which is quite something to achieve for lyrics in me. But I admit that the song itself doesn't give such thoughts a lot of food. I wouldn't expect it to, though.
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Into the top 50!
50. Camel – Mirage – Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider

1123.8 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 35 Ranked highest by Magnum Vaeltaja
(#17)
"After a short aquatic overture, you know with the fanfare horns
you're in for something special. The next part opens with an aerial majestic
music, a genuine little melodic gem! Then, the song alternates violent, calm
and even spacey passages with numerous pace changes and various instruments.
The haunting ending is also beautiful. Magic!" – Modrigue
"This is another song to put on the long list of prog tracks based
on J.R.R Tolkein's 'The Lord Of The Rings'. However, unlike the majority of
these tracks, 'The White Rider' is extremely good...All the sections of this
song are absolutely perfectly composed and structured, with all the instruments
sounding just right. This song leaves you wanting for nothing." - baz91
49. Return To Forever – Romantic Warrior – The Romantic Warrior

1126.3 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 39 Ranked highest by aglasshouse (#5)
"With a lush acoustic guitar making the intial running, Romantic
Warrior is an atypically mellow piece...It's so damn melodic and groovy at the
same time...I love the feeling the musicians exude of having so much time and
space in which to express themselves." - Trotsky
"The 11-mins [Romantic Warrior] is also a killer with Chick's
opening piano and Clarke bowed contrabass intro, the track builds up gradually,
allowing White to dazzle us, even if the real hero is Clarke's bass ruling over
Chick's suspended & floating piano, ADM's Spano-Flamenco guitar while
Clarke takes the bow to the contrabass to close the debate." - Sean Trane
48. Gentle Giant – The Power and The Glory - Proclamation

1135.0 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 88 Ranked highest by ALotOfBottle (#4)
"Despite what my family thinks, the song has excellent melodies
throughout, and keeps on building with electric and bass guitars that
ingeniously fill the gaps between the keyboard riff, as if to give it a delayed
sound. This creates a superb effect, and adds to the dissonant middle section,
where everything comes together to punch you in the face! The best track on the
album and an outstanding track almost beyond belief!" – Xonty
"Proclamation has a great jazzy beginning followed by some very
enjoyable two-line concurrent singing. The song continues to develop but never
quite strays into the dissonance or freneticism of their previous catologue of
unthinkably complex song structures." - BrufordFreak
47. King Crimson – Larks’ Tongues In Aspic – Larks’ Tongues In Aspic,
Pt. 1

1147.3 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 33 Ranked highest by Magnum Vaeltaja
(#7)
"On the surface, nothing [here] should work. It is incredibly
experimental and by experimental I really mean to say the "high school
chemistry teacher we all had that liked to blow up pumpkins in the
hallway" type of experimental. Brutal, explosive, almost sadistic at
times. "Larks' Tongues Pt. 1" offers the sort of occult-brewed jump
scares and unrelenting tension that we got from "21st Century Schizoid
Man", only with the dial cranked so much higher." - Magnum Vaeltaja
(#7)
"Lark's Tongue in Aspic, Part One" draws back the curtain to
the strains of a percolating Kalimba accompanied by an odd assortment of light
percussion items. It's like entering a stranger's room through a doorway of
hanging hippy beads (the abode of that mysterious, exotic siren you just met at
the bar, perhaps?). The lighting is slightly surrealistic and there's a faint
odor of some kind of spiced incense in the air. You're not scared; you just
know for sure that you're not in your mom's house. Soon an intriguing
electrical white noise arises as if you're being guided through a huge mass of
neurons excitedly exchanging impulses. This is followed by some tense violin
bowing from David Cross that graduates to a heavy metallic riff performed by
the full ensemble...Then, without notice, the whole thing detonates and
disseminates like nuclear fallout. Exhilarating is the closest I can come to
doing it justice." – Chicapah
46. Rush – 2112 – 2112

1176.7 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 86 Ranked highest by Slipperman7 (#12)
"A science-fiction musical story, taking place in year... 2112, in
a dystopian world where totalitarian priests have banished art and a young man
discovers a guitar. Beginning with a spacey electronic introduction, the
"Overture" and "Temples Of Syrinx" are the best sections:
thundering and ferocious, with epic galloping riffs! I was just completely
blown away the first time I listened to it. Grandiose and perfect progressive
metal!" - Modrigue
"2112 is the magnum opus, and the primary reason for getting this
album. The Sci-fi tale is a bit hokey, but it works well enough. As a teen, I
was with it 100%. "F%$# Yeah! Rock conquers all, man!" The concept
wears a little thin now, but it is not without its charm. As you would expect,
the playing is outstanding. The music rocks, softens, gets downright spacey,
and never fails to entertain." – bhikkhu
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2112 is higher than Larks' Tongues in Aspic Pt. 1...
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 14:18 |
and there we go.. the soft squishy prog turds that refuse to go down the drain no matter how much we try to flush them ... 
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 15:04 |
i'm predicting
45. Justin Bieber - Sorry
Edited by Blinkyjoh - September 12 2016 at 15:05
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 15:12 |
Blinkyjoh wrote:
i'm predicting
45. Justin Bieber SWilson - Sorry
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  now that makes a lot of sense... he sort of is the Bieber of prog... my god how we saw the Jockies fly when he was a member here ... I know I got hit by a pair of someone's before I snapped.  Thus it was only for a very short time before the Godfather ordered forth the AR hit squad took him out with a signature McContract hit.
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 15:15 |
ha. nice.
not to hijack the thread, but to double check i had the correct song title or in case i was confusing bieber and miley, almost 2 BILLION youtube views for Sorry.
romantic warrior...60,000 :D
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 15:18 |
a Mcfail for you dude... for knowing a song by either...
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Posted: September 12 2016 at 19:02 |
Blinkyjoh wrote:
i'm predicting
45. Justin Bieber - Sorry
| Speaking of Bieber, I was recently thinking, (this is an unrelated subject) what if Magma did a cover of Baby? It would be both funny and cool at the same time!
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45. Rush – Hemispheres – Cygnus X-1, Book 2: Hemispheres

1231.0 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 21 Ranked highest by zwordser (#5)
"Once again, to me, Hemispheres is to Farewell to Kings what the
Beatles 'Revolver' is to 'Rubber Soul': a logical follow-up. Therefore, the
second part of Cygnus X-1 is more elaborated, atmospheric and keyboardish as
Revolver was. Not better but differently approached. It's more epic. The sense
of storytelling is stronger and more dramatic. A great battle of Gods is
described all along the 18 minutes." – Menswear
"Cygnus X1 Book 2 is about the battle of the heart and mind,
basically the history of the world all in one song! Wouldn’t it be great to
have the heart and mind united in a single, perfect sphere? This is the longest
song on the album at over eighteen minutes and it’s a classic!" –
WaywardSon
44. Yes – Fragile – Roundabout

1240.8 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 64 Ranked highest by aglasshouse (#19)
"Roundabout features one of the band's greatest songs ever with
everything laid out perfectly, Squire's bass is like gasoline driving the bands
forward with that amazing sounding bass. Howe's guitar is doing so much and it
is so diverse fusing his electric guitar and his acoustic guitar together in a
magnificent way. The song is building up and doesn't stop until the right
moment has come, it calms down with good keys by Wakeman and vocals by Anderson,
then starts again with a bang featuring some solos from Howe and Wakeman,
purely delicious." – Sagichim
“K, I don’t care how many times you’ve heard this on the radio, this is
an objective masterpiece of a song. From that minimalistic intro by Steve Howe,
you can hear the tension brooding. This isn’t like anything else written before
it. But with a major D chord and a descending fingerstyle pattern, the tension
is released, overshadowed by a lighter mood. Or is it? When that bass groove sinks
in from Chris Squire, you can feel the vast scale of entire worlds being
created, cracked open and split apart. And the whole middle section where
Bruford gives 'er on the percussion, leading back into a recapitulation of the
intro, it’s just one of the greatest tension and release passages in modern
music. And let’s not forget Rick Wakeman’s organ solo. As Dewey Finn said in
School of Rock, “listen to the keyboard solo on Roundabout – it’ll blow the
classical music out your butt.” Essential, essential, essential listening.” –
Magnum Vaeltaja (#21)
43. Genesis – Trespass – The Knife

1255.9 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 88 Ranked highest by Slipperman7 (#19)
"The Knife is a frantic, menacing song, which pounds along like an
out of control express train. Peter Gabriel almost stumbles over himself as he
delivers the biting lyrics in double quick time. Genesis does prog metal
perhaps?!" - Easy Livin'
"In my opinion, The Knife has the best guitar solo of any Genesis
song, one that makes this reviewer want to stand up and bust out an air guitar
solo to match. You can talk to me until you're blue in the face about Steve
Hackett and Firth of Fifth, but no other Genesis track can make me want to
shred on an instrument of nitrogen and oxygen like this one." - baz91
42. PFM – Per Un Amico – Il Banchetto

1259.0 points Appears 4 times Mean rank: 18 Ranked highest by BunBun (#3)
"Il Banchetto is full of beautiful, understated guitar and tinkling
piano riffs- an exceptional track, starting with surprisingly accessible sounds
but gently evolving into more challenging textures." - James Lee
"Il banchetto is for me the prototype of the medium-size prog-rock
song; it's really one banchetto (feast) for the ears. Even the description of
the theme is difficult due to the continuous changes and different signatures.
The initial serenade with soft voices and guitars goes in a crescendo to a kind
of ethereal, agreeable, clear, majestic tune. The middle section conveys us to
a reverie unreality where the listener literally flies away to distant and
impressive worlds. Ending part is calm and sophisticated. My preferred album
track." – Atkingani
41. Gentle Giant – Acquiring The Taste – Pantagruel’s Nativity

1321.4 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 55 Ranked highest by DDPascalDD (#5)
"Pantagruel's Nativity is one of the greatest GG songs and opens
the album in a blaze of glory. The rhythmic changes and the melodies are
killer." - AtomicCrimsonRush
"Immediately we are
thrown straight into Gentle Giant's unique sound world; somewhat on the
"soft" side in terms of overall timbre and feel, but with a decided
driving rock undertone. Talking of timbre, all kinds of musical textures come
"out of the woodwork" and produce a wonderful ebb and flow in the music
conjuring many a mood - the appropriateness of which baffles me a little on
occasions, but really, when it's of this quality, I don't care too much."
- Certif1ed
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40. Mike Oldfield – Tubular Bells – Tubular Bells, Pts. 1 & 2

1331.4 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 78 Ranked highest by A_Flower (#30)
"My favourite part of the whole album is the "caveman"
part. Many hate it but I think it's brilliant. It's the only part of the album
where you hear Mike rock out. The oddball grunted vocals are the icing on the
cake." – Zravkapt
"[Tubular Bells] seems to mesmerize with every listen with hypnotic
effect, encapsulating all that is great about prog rock - the weird, off-kilter
time signatures, the lengthy sections of overture, the use of a variety of
instruments, and the melody that haunts with every listen." –
AtomicCrimsonRush
39. Van der Graaf Generator – Pawn Hearts – Lemmings

1357.3 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 42 Ranked highest by ALotOfBottle (#7)
"The album starts with a bomb, the fantastic piece
"Lemmings", which creates a complex sequence of themes and moods:
From a nervous, keyboard driven melody, comes a soft but dense moment, where
Hammill is the center of the music. Every second of this song is great, very
well done, for its complexity and at the same time for its memorable
melodies." - EatThatPhonebook
"Lemmings, an apocalyptic psychological and philosophical piece,
has the feel of the inevitable. Hammill's vocal creates uncertainty, fear and
damning, sometimes mocking, condemnation equally without any restraint, and his
'what course is there left but to die... I really don't know' is indescribable
in its emotional grip." - TGM: Orb
38. Gentle Giant – Octopus – Knots

1361.7 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 78 Ranked highest by DDPascalDD (#12)
"Knots - the crown of the GG catalog, and of the classic prog era
in general. Like the tentacles of the title creature, the vocals weave in and
out in odd rhythm showcasing the utter brilliance of these guys. At first
listen, the opening seems a little calculated, which it no doubtedly was, but
by the time the weaving hits the end with the chorus I'm afraid the emotion and
energy are at a high." - Negoba
"The madrigal "Knots" is one of the most varied vocal
weavings I have ever heard which sets itself apart from everything else GG (or
anyone else for that matter) has done...It is brilliant how it plays with other
instrumental parts and maintains a catchiness despite being alienating at the
same time." - siLLy puppy
37. Gentle Giant – Octopus – The Advent of Panurge

1369.4 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 69 Ranked highest by aglasshouse (#39)
"There's an itching the back of the mind when The Advent Of Panurge
comes to an end that says, 'no, don't end! More! More!"" - Queen
By-Tor
"This one has it all, the remarkable vocal interplay, the staccato
keyboard work, the medieval flavor. And the overall sense of weirdness that
brands GG like no other band. A great intro to the band." – Negoba
36. King Crimson – In The Court of The Crimson King - Epitaph

1403.6 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 77 Ranked highest by Blinkyjoh (#23)
"If you didn't know who he was already, you might be able to guess
the singer was Greg Lake from Emerson, Lake and Palmer, because of his dramatic
singing on this track. The most memorable thing about this song is the use of
mellotron. Without being overpowering, the keyboard gives this song an
otherworldly feel that other bands would try and copy in years to come." -
baz91
"The heavy waves of Mellotron and the acoustic guitar that open
"Epitaph" is one of the best moments of this album. Lake's voice is
undeniably good here, and the strikes of acoustic guitar that punctuate the
piece are impressive even though it's a small addition." – Epignosis
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Only liked selected choices so far
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35. Genesis – Nursery Cryme – The Fountain of Salmacis

1422.3 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 66 Ranked highest by Guldbamsen (#18)
"Fountain of Samalcis is another outstanding track and begins with
a beautiful volume swell of mellotron ominously building like a jet plane
swooping past, perhaps like a fountain rising and falling. Gabriel tells the
weird surreal story and the track builds with glorious mellotron orchestrated
in a symphonic crescendo by Banks." – AtomicCrimsonRush
"My favorite here would be Salmacis, with blissful mellotron, a
well-told story, some nice guitar-work, and some great stuff by Collins. A true
team effort, in writing and performance." – Flucktrot
34. Mike Oldfield – Ommadawn – Ommadawn, Pts. 1 & 2

1429.9 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 34 Ranked highest by mechanicalflattery
(#10)
"If ever I were on a desert island and I only had a handful of
album to choose from, Ommadawn would be in the top three! The moods and
melodies, more complex than Hergest Ridge yet accessible in only the way
Oldfield knows best in conveying. The African rhythms and chanting closing side
one are probably the best incantations Oldfield has put together on
record." - Chris S
"The Ommadawn piece is well over 30 minutes in length and runs a
gamut of emotions and colors, from delectable acoustic moments to folk flavored
dancings to aggressive electric guitar rock. The playing is always tasteful
with every theme introduced quite simply and then being given ample time to
build and expand until reaching a dramatic conclusion, at which point there
will be a release and a retreat back to another calming rebirth." –
Finnforest
33. Van der Graaf Generator – Pawn Hearts – Man-Erg

1453.2 points Appears 5 times Mean rank: 34 Ranked highest by mechanicalflattery
(#4)
"Man-Erg on the other hand is one of the those heart-breaking
Hammill exorcisms. The sweeping majesty of VDGG's organ- drenched symphonic
moments are pretty tough to match for their intensity and Man-Erg is one of
those awesome moments, perhaps doubly so, because it also contains some
extraordinarily fiery hard-rocking passages (in some time signature I can't
begin to fathom)." – Trotsky
"Man Erg is so amazing, beginning in almost soothing balladesque
fashion which becomes downright uplifting until the moment it snaps--you then
hear the screams of children as the darkness descends. This moment of a man
apparently falling prey to evil is replicated so beautifully by the ensuing
sonic assault, very powerful, and almost disorienting due to the simultaneous stereo
panning tricks. Surely one of dark prog's most memorable moments." –
Finnforest
32. Genesis – Nursery Cryme – The Return of The Giant Hogweed

1501.6 points Appears 7 times Mean rank: 80 Ranked highest by zwordser (#44)
"Here we are introduced to Hackett's finger tapping technique...a
technique that the above mentioned young Van Halen would rework and turn into a
classic guitar solo on his future band's debut album. "Hogweed" also
features some premier music of this era of Genesis, including flute and piano,
a beautiful classical piano break by Banks, some truly awesome music for
guitar, piano, and drums, and Gabriel's theatrical vocal style which captures
the mood of the story." – FragileKings
"Things get a lot heavier, with this alarming track that has two
lead guitars, one low and one high, panned on both sides. Gabriel sings with a
fair bit of vitriol as he tells a bizarre story about a hogweed that takes over
the country. The riff during the verses is extremely inventive, and Mike
Rutherford does a remarkable job in the background...After a short vocal bit
with some of Gabriel's strangest vocals, there's a fiery and thunderous
conclusion." – Epignosis
31. Genesis – Foxtrot – Watcher of The Skies

1504.9 points Appears 6 times Mean rank: 63 Ranked highest by someone_else (#25)
"Any fan of this album knows the welcome chill-up-the-spine when
"Watcher Of The Skies" comes a-creeping, a grand entrance to one
seriously mandatory album. A dramatic, sometimes foreboding track, this song is
the apex of the early Genesis catalog, revolving around an odd groove and
flowing mathematical syncopation." – slipperman
"The majestic mellotron in the opening seconds
of ''Watcher of the Skies'' will haunt every prog listener for the rest of his
life. With impressive bass lines and sinister organ parts, this is one of the
excellent Genesis poetic deliveries with nice tune changes and a dramatic,
symphonic atmosphere all the way." - apps79
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The list gets better and better! Didn't expect Roundabout to end this high, though. Does that mean South Side and Heart ot Sunrise will both be even higher?
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EddieRUKiddingVarese
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 04 2016
Location: Aust
Status: Offline
Points: 1802
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Posted: September 13 2016 at 02:37 |
Same old Same old
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"Everyone is born with genius, but most people only keep it a few minutes" and I need the knits, the double knits!
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ALotOfBottle
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 17 2016
Location: Lublin, Poland
Status: Offline
Points: 1990
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Posted: September 13 2016 at 09:07 |
So glad "Lemmings" and "Proclamation" made it so high! Amazing songs!
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Categories strain, crack and sometimes break, under their burden - step out of the space provided.
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