Who would you remove ?

The Wizard wrote: Rocktopus wrote: Wouldn't mind everything and everyone suggested so far being removed, except Kate Bush. Deserves a special mention: Nightwish, Blackmore's Night, Trans Siberian Orchestra and Lacrimosa. Thank you! What the f**k are Nightwish doing on this sight anyway? We do want people do take us somewhat seriously.

I was bothered by the Doors inclusion as well.. I guess the reasoning is that they 'progressed rock' through Manzarek's pseudo-classical lines, and the group's impact on psychedelia, an important precursor to prog. At least that's what I tell myself







Edited by Atavachron - May 30 2007 at 21:31

they were a pop band, let's face it

1. The Doors
2. Iron Maiden
3. Deep Purple
4. Led Zeppelin
5. Split Enz

This is a Prog site. The additions in the past year or so are WAAAY out of control.

I can't believe this thread is still active!

The Doors

• Queen - I've always had dificulty with this band being in the PA;
• Iron Maiden - One of my favorite band, but out of place IMO;
• GTR - For obvious reasons...;
• Led Zeppelin - Is it really prog ?  For me it's just plain old rock;
• Rainbow - Again, a bit out of place

Tommy wrote: RUSH like Genesis should be removed. What is prog about anything they've done since 1980. They became a cheesy straight forward rock/synth band. Duran Duran were much better at it!

Yes, let's remove all bands who put out at least one album of music that some of us consider to not be prog. Here's the starting list to which you may add : King Crimson - the 80s; Yes - the first album & the 80s, Jethro Tull - blues based debut , Gentle Giant - Civilian, Harmonium - francophone America clone on debut , Kansas - AOR drivel albums 7 -9, Moody Blues - R & B debut &  90s pop tunes, Pink Floyd - Psychedelia debut, Marillion & neo in general - pop prog, Camel & PFM & Le Orme & many others - pop period ... etc etc .
I say we quote Sonic Youth & kill our idols. WHoa, wait my idol is already dead, Bon come back , I gotta do my part !!!
Allow your mind to progress, allow your music to progress; but I digress ....

Tommy wrote: debrewguy wrote: Tommy wrote: RUSH like Genesis should be removed. What is prog about anything they've done since 1980. They became a cheesy straight forward rock/synth band. Duran Duran were much better at it! Yes, let's remove all bands who put out at least one album of music that some of us consider to not be prog. Here's the starting list to which you may add : King Crimson - the 80s; Yes - the first album & the 80s, Jethro Tull - blues based debut , Gentle Giant - Civilian, Harmonium - francophone America clone on debut , Kansas - AOR drivel albums 7 -9, Moody Blues - R & B debut &  90s pop tunes, Pink Floyd - Psychedelia debut, Marillion & neo in general - pop prog, Camel & PFM & Le Orme & many others - pop period ... etc etc . I say we quote Sonic Youth & kill our idols. WHoa, wait my idol is already dead, Bon come back , I gotta do my part !!! Allow your mind to progress, allow your music to progress; but I digress ....   That 's the trouble, Rush 's & Geneisis's music didn't progress, it regressed. Remove Genesis  & Rush 80's to present!

Regression means going back to your past. Rush & Genesis had never put out that sort of music before, so,  ergo, they progressed; grosso moddo, they forged ahead; i.e. they moved on ; you should too Problem removed !

Tommy wrote: debrewguy wrote: Tommy wrote: debrewguy wrote: Tommy wrote: RUSH like Genesis should be removed. What is prog about anything they've done since 1980. They became a cheesy straight forward rock/synth band. Duran Duran were much better at it! Yes, let's remove all bands who put out at least one album of music that some of us consider to not be prog. Here's the starting list to which you may add : King Crimson - the 80s; Yes - the first album & the 80s, Jethro Tull - blues based debut , Gentle Giant - Civilian, Harmonium - francophone America clone on debut , Kansas - AOR drivel albums 7 -9, Moody Blues - R & B debut &  90s pop tunes, Pink Floyd - Psychedelia debut, Marillion & neo in general - pop prog, Camel & PFM & Le Orme & many others - pop period ... etc etc . I say we quote Sonic Youth & kill our idols. WHoa, wait my idol is already dead, Bon come back , I gotta do my part !!! Allow your mind to progress, allow your music to progress; but I digress ....   That 's the trouble, Rush 's & Geneisis's music didn't progress, it regressed. Remove Genesis  & Rush 80's to present! Regression means going back to your past. Rush & Genesis had never put out that sort of music before, so,  ergo, they progressed; grosso moddo, they forged ahead; i.e. they moved on ; you should too Problem removed !   They hadn't but other bands did. They saw bands like Ultravox. Human League, Duran Duran making a quick buck and wanted some of the action. They  were no longer prog bands and shouldn't be discussed on this forum as such.  Remove 'em I say!

Kinda funny how you can "sell-out" after you've made a mint. But then being a music idol has its' responsabilities ... like never changing your music because your fans are too stoned to remember where they put your previous albums, so you have to re-write the same stuff over & over again, so they can buy it over & over again & hopefully remember where they put the new album that they just bought. And don't dare insinuate that you're trying to keep it fresh for you ... fresh is what clean underwear are for. If 1 & a half tracks is what you recorded my favourite album on, it's heresy if you move on to stereo. And by god, every band with integrity knows that to preserve that integrity you have to make sure you never sell enough albums so that your fans end up not being the only ones who "get" them, that would be hell on earth artistically. Even better if you can keep putting out albums that no one buys, then they can become collectibles when fools have bought every other obscure album that they could put their hands on. To push it to its' utter perfect end, just name the band, provide a short arrogant description of the musical masterpiece that you would put out if it wasn't below your dignity to dirty yourself with such crass earthly sinful activity as actually putting your weinie on the chopping block & seeing what other people think of your "compositions". Then, once you start getting fans who hate being proven right about your music being good, go out on tour & talk about how life is actually pretty good now that your music is getting recognised. Of course, don't mention the 300 gigs a year that you did for 5 years. We don't want to hear that you actually worked for it.
And most of all, remember - you the musician don't count. We, the music listener, can do just fine without your music, or anyone else's music for that matter. Oh wait, then we'd be able to think about all this & see the inherent qualities of a troll scoping out his out of reach outside world of reality.
Mellow out , man ! We mean it !
Nasty inanities are in abundance.