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I don't get last.fm, any more than I cared for Pandora after a little while. Their "programming" only exposes you to more of the same.
I can't see that I would have discovered Univers Zero, unless I was already looking for other groups like that. I guess that is what Ivan really means.
After all, why would a computer be able to surprise me with something that I wasn't looking for. In which case, Mike, you may want to ditch last.fm, and check out Spotify, or any of the many XM/Sirius Radio stations. It's easy to find other groups that sound like Dream Theater or Dun. The hard part is coming across them in the first place.  And a computer program cannot decipher where you might be delightfully surprised by something based on another thing that you already like.
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Points: 19535 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 20:16
Good point Claude:
 
Liquid Eterenity's chart says:
 
 
 
This tells me he has heard Drean Theater (Which I don't like at all) and VDGG (Not my cup of tea either).
 
But doesn't tell me if he likes them, why, what's the best thing of them, how good are the lyrics...Absolutely nothing, except that he has listened a lot of VDGG in the last day.
 
If I want to know about VDGG, I would read reviews and have a better impression, and if not enough, I will get the album that sounds closer to what i might like according to a revioewer I trust, but last Fm, even when I might trust Liquid Eternity................. Please, I don't even know if he liked themn or just exploring a new artist for him, the rest remains in the Question
 
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Points: 3596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 20:37
Amen brother. I prefer reading reviews, and let luck take its' course. All it takes is the right one to pique your curiousity. And that applies to iconic releases, new or obscure albums.

P.S. - for all the debate over weighting ... a good review is good. True, PA's reviewers and collabs may have a track record, and some heft behind their opinions ... but then I just use the example of Night Sun's Mournin to show that even prog reviewers, collabs & admin miss out on some gems. The enthusiasm showed by the few existing reviews at the time left me no choice but to get it.


Edited by debrewguy - May 06 2009 at 20:41
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These are excellent changes, but is there any plan to change the layout of the reviews? I much preferred the old way, and I can't bring myself to write a review knowing it will be shunted off to the side like that.
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@Henry Planview: some visitors use the following page to display all reviews in 1 page http://www.progarchives.com/album-reviews.asp?id=1251

In the album pages, under the Ratings Distribution, click on the SHOW ALL REVIEWS/RATINGS link
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Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Not everyone can edit their reviews:
"You account doesn't have the persmission to do this"
 
might want to fix the grammer on that rejection message as well Smile
 
This is also my problem.
 
And i've this problem both with review that with album add.
 
I am forced to do logging in every time that I being in PA, if I do the operations mentioned above.
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M@X, good job. A change in the right direction as to weight calculation. Possibility to change ratings and reviews a BIG step forward. Cool!
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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Not everyone can edit their reviews:
"You account doesn't have the persmission to do this"
 
might want to fix the grammer on that rejection message as well Smile
 
This is also my problem.
 
And i've this problem both with review that with album add.
 
I am forced to do logging in every time that I being in PA, if I do the operations mentioned above.


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I'm personally very pleased with the changes, and I'm fine about the weighting - I trust this website to pick suitable people to be collaborators and I think it is only right that they are given the recognition they deserve. I've seen fairly n00by reviews which I don't think deserve as much weight.

I love the change that means we can go over our reviews! Now, what would be GREAT would be someone proofreading everyone's reviews....just a thought ;)



EDIT: Needed to proofread thatun, haha


Edited by popeyethecat - May 10 2009 at 16:28
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Thank you admins for making re-evaluation of personal ratings available to be changed. I already made a few changes.
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Points: 16913 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2009 at 18:50
Originally posted by popeyethecat popeyethecat wrote:

I'm personally very pleased with the changes, and I'm fine about the weighting - I trust this website to pick suitable people to be collaborators and I think it is only right that they are given the recognition they deserve. I've seen fairly n00by reviews which I don't think deserve as much weight.




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Points: 392 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 16:37
1) The rating alg: Seems much better for me too. Just a doubt about the rating only, does it count the same for everybody? 1pt for all? Or the rating from PR, Collab, SC, Adm weights more?

2) The edit review functionality: Very very good. Now I can write the respective review for some ratings I placed after joining the site, and didn't understood very well the difference between rating & review Dead Embarrassed (without depending on a Collab/Admin)
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Points: 900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 18:55
Whoa. Review commenting? Cool.
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Points: 17488 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 19:06
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Whoa. Review commenting? Cool.

Useful function I feel. Damo Thanks M@X. Clap
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 19:06
Originally posted by AlexUC AlexUC wrote:

1) The rating alg: Seems much better for me too. Just a doubt about the rating only, does it count the same for everybody? 1pt for all? Or the rating from PR, Collab, SC, Adm weights more?
A rating without a review counts as x1 for everybody.
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Points: 900 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 19:23
Although, as cool as these new things are, they're kind of big. Can we scale the text boxes back a bit? I don't think anyone would mind.

And I must admit... I'm slightly confused as to how I'm being used as an example up there. Just that merely knowing what a person listens to informs nothing as to why?


Edited by LiquidEternity - May 18 2009 at 19:24
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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2009 at 10:49
I've scaled down the box as suggsted, thanks
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