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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2010 at 06:54
Originally posted by Rolf  Bos Rolf Bos wrote:

From all kinds of prog some of the worst albums:
Supertramp - Free as a bird
Jan Akkerman - 3
Golden Earring - Keeper of the flame
Pink Floyd - The final cut
Metallica - St. Anger
Kate Bush - The red shoes
Deep Purple - The battle rages on

In my opinion less worse but dubious:
Yes - Union
Doors - The soft parade
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Marillion - Radiation
Iron Maiden - No prayer for the dying
Black Sabbath - Never say die
Klaus Schulze & Rainer Bloss - Drive inn
Kansas - Power
Queen - Hot space


Presence is awesome...to me at least.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 22 2010 at 14:24
Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

I never listened to it, but I'm anticipating some Love Beach
 
You're in for a pleasant surprise. A great last stab before things fell apart and Greg Lake's voice changed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 12:26
Originally posted by esky esky wrote:

Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

I never listened to it, but I'm anticipating some Love Beach
 
You're in for a pleasant surprise. A great last stab before things fell apart and Greg Lake's voice changed.
Sorry, but I can't think of "pleasant surprise" and "Love Beach" as anything but a finalist in an oxymoron contest. . .Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2010 at 03:56
Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

I like Waters and his vocals a lot, but The Final Cut is pretty boring, the best tracks are the ones left over from The Wall, had they been included on that album, they would have been considered filler.
 
That sums up the album pretty well, all the newer tracks are completely forgettable.
 
And I don't know what people are smoking when they say it's better than The Wall, I suspect that they're trying a little too hard to be different.

IMO The Wall is inconistent. The 1st disc blows, and the 2nd is amazing. The Final Cut is way more consistent and overall I do think it is better than The Wall.

 
The fu???
 
Are you freaking mad? The 1st disc pretty much rapes the 2nd. 1st disc has no filler while 2nd disc drags a little because of side 3.

The first disc has plenty of filler and a few below average tracks. Disc 2 features some favourites of mine, like Hey You and The Trial (which is actually one of my favourite Floyd songs, oddly).
 
Nah son.
 
I enjoy all the tracks on disc one, even the shorter tracks that are meant to tie things together. Disc 2 gets bumpy between Hey You and Comfy Numb. I admit to liking Is There Anybody Out There, it's filler and that's irrefutable but it's a throwback to their old psychedelic stuff so I like it. Nobody Home is decent but very underwhelming compared to all the other stuff on this album. And Vera and Bring the Boys Back Home are easily the two worst songs on the album, they have nothing to do with the story and they have that soap opera-ish/over dramatic orchestration that was the big issue with The Final Cut.
 
Once Comfortably Numb kicks in, things pick up by a huge deal. In the Flesh, Run Like Hell and Waiting for the Worms are all great. And I really do love The Trial, it's like a surreal Wagnerian nightmare.
 
I think side 1, 2 and 4 are great. While side 3 only has two truly stand out tracks, and that's why I consider disc 2 the weaker one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2010 at 04:16
Kansas Drastic Measures was a real low, worse than Power.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 08:30
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Rolf Bos Rolf Bos wrote:

From all kinds of prog some of the worst albums:
Supertramp - Free as a bird
Jan Akkerman - 3
Golden Earring - Keeper of the flame
Pink Floyd - The final cut
Metallica - St. Anger
Kate Bush - The red shoes
Deep Purple - The battle rages on

In my opinion less worse but dubious:
Yes - Union
Doors - The soft parade
Led Zeppelin - Presence
Marillion - Radiation
Iron Maiden - No prayer for the dying
Black Sabbath - Never say die
Klaus Schulze & Rainer Bloss - Drive inn
Kansas - Power
Queen - Hot space


Presence is awesome...to me at least.
 
I think so too, it's their least diverse album yes, but c'mon, worse than ITTOD and Coda?
 
Achilles Last Stand, Nobody's Fault But Mine and Tea for One makes that impossible.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 08:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 16:05
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

  • Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO HeStarStar


Shocked Are you allowed to say that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 16:35
Dream Theater- "Falling into Infinity" is Waaaaaaaay worse than "Systematic Chaos"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 16:43
Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

  • Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO HeStarStar


Shocked Are you allowed to say that?

Nope. I flirt with danger.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 16:55
the worst flirt with danger by a great prog fan so to say, eh?

Edited by Rivertree - August 26 2010 at 16:56


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 26 2010 at 20:14
Someone has probably mentioned this already because it's kinda obvious. The Final Cut is a huge let down. A bitter end to a five album hot streak.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 27 2010 at 05:01
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

the worst flirt with danger by a great prog fan so to say, eh?

LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:06

"Talk" by Yes, far and away the worst album of their career.  The only album of theirs I ever got rid of, there wasn't a single song on it worth listening to.  Way too much garbage and influence from Trevor Rabin, who dumbed them down earlier and reached bottom on this one.  "Love Beach" and "Russian Roulette" aren't far behind but ELP and Triumvirat were already on the slippery slope while Yes had still been fairly  creative before letting Rabin have more say.l

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2010 at 17:18
Originally posted by smbeck24 smbeck24 wrote:

"Talk" by Yes, far and away the worst album of their career.  The only album of theirs I ever got rid of, there wasn't a single song on it worth listening to.  Way too much garbage and influence from Trevor Rabin, who dumbed them down earlier and reached bottom on this one.  "Love Beach" and "Russian Roulette" aren't far behind but ELP and Triumvirat were already on the slippery slope while Yes had still been fairly  creative before letting Rabin have more say.l


I'm sure a lot here would disagree about Talk. It seems to have a lot of fans here of which I am one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 01:20
Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

I never listened to it, but I'm anticipating some Love Beach


i was like is this elp with that love beach,its was a bad for the most part,the only thing with talking about was the epic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2010 at 05:36
Originally posted by jerryfurry jerryfurry wrote:

Originally posted by DreamInSong DreamInSong wrote:

I never listened to it, but I'm anticipating some Love Beach


i was like is this elp with that love beach,its was a bad for the most part,the only thing with talking about was the epic


The epic saves the album, or what's left of it.

I'll go for VDGG's Still... nah, just kidding - The Quiet Zone - The Pleasure Dome. Sooooooooooo fu...ing boring.
The Problems of the Future - Today!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2010 at 20:38
The ConstruKtion of Light by King Crimson.
A Flower!?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2010 at 15:30
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by smbeck24 smbeck24 wrote:

"Talk" by Yes, far and away the worst album of their career.  The only album of theirs I ever got rid of, there wasn't a single song on it worth listening to.  Way too much garbage and influence from Trevor Rabin, who dumbed them down earlier and reached bottom on this one.  "Love Beach" and "Russian Roulette" aren't far behind but ELP and Triumvirat were already on the slippery slope while Yes had still been fairly  creative before letting Rabin have more say.l


I'm sure a lot here would disagree about Talk. It seems to have a lot of fans here of which I am one.

So  am I.  Angry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2010 at 15:32
Originally posted by LateralMe LateralMe wrote:

The ConstruKtion of Light by King Crimson.

Yes, probably their weakest for me too. Approve
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