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Posted: July 07 2011 at 06:12
JS19 wrote:
So they basically welcomed [Mangini] to the band in a frenzy of media hype, then told him to go away while we write the album. Nice.
Just wait until Portnoy's return is announced... then you'll see a frenzy of media/forum attention thereby hyping the current album and MP's return equally (or am I just being cynical?).
If I were Mangini, I wouldn't get too comfortable on that drum stool
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 06:25
Jim Garten wrote:
JS19 wrote:
So they basically welcomed [Mangini] to the band in a frenzy of media hype, then told him to go away while we write the album. Nice.
Just wait until Portnoy's return is announced... then you'll see a frenzy of media/forum attention thereby hyping the current album and MP's return equally (or am I just being cynical?).
If I were Mangini, I wouldn't get too comfortable on that drum stool
I was thinking the same thing last night.
Avenged Sevenfold ?? I heard somewhere that that was where Portnoy was headed and that just don't make any sence to me.
Maybe just all hype and a planned propoganda thing.
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 10:29
Listened another 3 times over the past few days....I am still just ok with it. But I would not expect them to release the "good stuff" yet. I am taking it as a teaser, I also think that is NOT gonna be the album cover but more of just an image for this song release.....hopefully.
I'm ok with the length of the song, I like longer songs anyhow, but I do kinda get lost in the keyboard portion. Everything seems to be toned down a lot and I think a lot of us are still reeling from the bombastic in your face prog metal epic 1st song on BC&SL.....which I for one enjoy very much!
I listened to Octavarium then the new song and it seemed to work better for me. Although based on this song I am not expecting anything earth shattering with the new album.
After seeing Portnoy with Neal Morse on T2 tour and his passion for playing, I wonder if he is really wanting to come back anytime soon? Especially with the new Adrenaline Mob project and all the other stuff, he seems pretty busy as usual.
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Posted: July 07 2011 at 12:43
DT could play "three blind mice" and still be head and shoulders above any other acts out there
The DT bashers - well - they don't live in my house so I don't care.
Seriously - if I stop comparing them to themselves then it becomes pretty apparant that their worst albums wipe the floor with most of the other releases in the Prog Metal category.
What do the bashers want? Another Images and Words with each release? How boring would that get after like the third reincarnation.
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Posted: July 08 2011 at 07:03
DavetheSlave wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
JS19 wrote:
So they basically welcomed [Mangini] to the band in a frenzy of media hype, then told him to go away while we write the album. Nice.
Just wait until Portnoy's return is announced... then you'll see a frenzy of media/forum attention thereby hyping the current album and MP's return equally (or am I just being cynical?). If I were Mangini, I wouldn't get too comfortable on that drum stool
I was thinking the same thing last night.
Avenged Sevenfold ?? I heard somewhere that that was where Portnoy was headed and that just don't make any sence to me.
Maybe just all hype and a planned propoganda thing.
Exactly - just look how many threads/posts there've been on PA/MMA/Most other rock music forums since the announcement of MP leaving... all very good advertising & raises DT's profile.
When/If MP returns, then you'll see it all again, only more so
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Posted: July 08 2011 at 07:34
I'm pretty impressed with this track to be honest. A bit lighter than of late, but dramatic and technical, great vocals from Labrie, plenty of flash from Rudess and a killer Petrucci solo to boot. What more could you ask for? In fact I was just relieved that they still sound like DT!!
Jim, I regret to say that MP returning to DT I just don't see happening. Looks like things have already gone a bit too far for a return. Hope I'm wrong though.
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Posted: July 08 2011 at 09:08
Roj M30 wrote:
Jim, I regret to say that MP returning to DT I just don't see happening. Looks like things have already gone a bit too far for a return. Hope I'm wrong though.
Roger, I'm probably just being Mr Cynical of Cynical City, but the whole thing looks a little... staged/contrived to me (especially if it's true that a drummer of Mike Mangini's talent is being used effectively as a session musician only).
I guess only time will tell (but then this is coming from a DT fan who looks back fondly to the days when Derek Sherinian was on keys )
What's with all the Octavarium hate? I think it's one of their best ever albums. The title track is probably the best epic they ever recorded.
And the new song is great. I was a bit 'meh' on it upon first listen, but what prog song hits you on the first listen? It grew on me after a few subsequent play throughs. I have to say, Labrie sounds on fire, and so does Rudess. Mangini fits into the band very well. And I don't miss Portnoy's growled vocals!
Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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JS19 wrote:
I was thinking the same thing last night. 
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