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Points: 24059 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 02:49
  • Holidays in Eden is in my top three of Marillion albums.
  • Best Kept Secret, Alquin's fourth studio album (and imho their best save The Mountain Queen),  is embarrassingly underrated.
  • Islands is King Crimson's best album. Discipline is only average, Starless and Bible Black even less.
    In the Wake of Poseidon     is an improvement of Itchycock.
  • Peter Hammill's vocals are an acquired taste.
  • Pawn Hearts is not in my top five of VdGG albums.
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Fish sounds more like Peter Hammill than he does Peter Gabriel on those first few Marillion albums (I've never really made the Gabriel connection)
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Points: 7951 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 04:02
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

  • <span style="line-height: 1.4;">Holidays in Eden is in my top three of Marillion albums

That's a great album, I'm always happy to see a bit of praise for it! After so many modern Hogarth-led Marillion albums that have very mumbly rambling vocal passages, `Holidays in Eden' is a bit of a godsend, such a focused and punchy rock album. The poppier tracks are simply great catchy tunes too.
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Steven Wilson, Haken and nu prog in general are vastly overrated, and bands like Mastodon, Meshuggah, Periphery or Tool aren't prog at all.
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  • DSOTM is a masterpiece
  • Steven Wilson is a genius
  • ELP, Rush and Gentle Giant are overrated
  • Love progressive Italiano (PFM, Area, Le Orme, Slivovitz), hate Banco 
  • Frank Zappa's 1988 live unit was better than anything he put together between 1975 and 1988 - in fact it was probably better than his Roxy period band
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- When Dream And Day Unite is my 3rd favorite Dream Theater album (in fact all 3 Kevin Moore ones are at the top of my list).

- Grace Under Pressure is my favorite Rush album.

- Drama is my favorite Yes album.

- Though 70's Genesis is more consistent album-wise, "Mama" and "Land Of Confusion" are among my favorite Genesis tracks.

- I don't get Soft Machine.

- Renaissance has one good song ("Vultures Fly High"). Everything else is boring as hell.

- Wish You Were Here is an overrated album (Animals is far better).

- Season's End would be the best Marillion album if "The Bell In The Sea" was in the official track-listing.

- Periphery needs a better singer.

- Arena's never had a decent vocalist.

- Aside from "Cirkus," Lizard is an awful King Crimson album.

- Three Friends is the best Gentle Giant album.

- Hand. Cannot. Erase. is a disappointing snooze-fest marred by flaccid production. Raven & Grace For Drowning were far better.


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Originally posted by The Ghost The Ghost wrote:



- Periphery needs a better singer.
Yes. Also I would prefer greatly if they recorded from an amp. The perfect straight-from-the-computer tones gets boring.
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If Steve Vai and Buckethead are prog related then Joe Satriani might be too.
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Points: 898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 15:39
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

If Steve Vai and Buckethead are prog related then Joe Satriani might be too.

Agreed...
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Points: 64701 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 17:27
^ Maybe for something like Time Machine.   Satch would be a somewhat harder sell as he's known largely as a pop instrumentalist.
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I like RPI, but i don't find "Le Orme" as "the big thing". The albums start really well, but then, they become boring... Btw, "Banco" is my favourite along with "Buon Vecchio Charlie".
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Points: 19965 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 19:17
The best I can do is I think Rush made at least 6 albums better than "Moving Pictures".
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Originally posted by DeadSouls DeadSouls wrote:

<span style="line-height: 18.2px; : rgb248, 248, 252;">I like RPI, but i don't find "Le Orme" as "the big thing". The albums start really well, but then, they become boring... Btw, "Banco" is my favourite along with "Buon Vecchio Charlie".</span>


I also don't get the great love for "Le Orme" (nor the frequent comparisons with ELP, for that matter)... also sound kind of boring (I also love "Banco", I guess they might just as well be my favourite one as well). However, I do love the album "Felona & Sorona" from Le Orme.
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Points: 1754 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2016 at 23:35
Flaming Lips are a prog band. I don't understand why they're not here in PA, but Mercury Rev and Bjork are.


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Using "Roundabout" for the end credits of early JoJo's Bizarre Adventure episodes is genius, and the English subs for it are awful for b*****dizing names later characters.

Io Sono Murple is sonically more hilarious than Pokey the Penguin.
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*are awful for misconstruing the names of later characters.

Emergency & I is one of the best prog albums of all time, as well as the only one that perfectly encapsulates 90's Magic Eye VHSs.
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Points: 6402 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 00:49
Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

I absolutely adore The Ladder.
 
oh, me too!  I think that we are the only two on this site that share that opinion.
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Points: 23098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 02:08
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:


Flaming Lips are a prog band. I don't understand why they're not here in PA, but Mercury Rev and Bjork are.



Prog related used to be a sub that stood for 'sounds-kinda-proggy' and A LOT of bands got in - bands that should never have gotten in. Problem is the only one who can erase artists from the database is Max (our Lord and saviour).

Personally I'd rather get rid of prog related and proto prog altogether. All they do is to muddy up the waters.
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Points: 9869 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 02:28
ConfusedJon Anderson's vocals do next to nothing for me. Flat, lacking in expression and dynamics, compounded by a near vibrato less tone. I don't find my opinion unusual based on the yardsticks by which I judge singers but on the other hand his vocals seem to enjoy sort of a canonical status in the prog world.
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Points: 23098 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2016 at 02:35
^You're not alone there.
I do enjoy Yes but Jon's vocals are usually what makes me go 'feck it...enough is enough!' and then reach for something with a little more....erm..balls.
He is great on Lizard as Prince Rubert, but then again he doesn't outstay his welcome.
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