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Catcher10
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What he stated is massively more accurate than even slightly off base.......again its about the history of music that need not be forgotten. When a band says "I/we were influenced by Chubby Checker and Chuck Berry....." I'm not sure what opinion you could have of such a statement, other than to call the band liars.
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I may have misunderstood this - so when Paul McCartney said The Beatles were influenced by Chuck Berry, he was lying?
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That's what I was telling SixString.....I don't think you can have an opinion when a band directly says they were influenced by someone specific. I mean unless the opinion is that McCartney is whacked or lying or has no clue what he is talking about. SixString was commenting on what cstack said about roots of all music is from black musicians. I'd have to think hard about the word "all" but I still think it is way more accurate than not.
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Please, go ahead, bite!! What is your alternative explanation for the roots of ALL rock music? |
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^ Should be interesting. If only this question was addressed to boboulo/svetonio.
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Yes, I would like to hear the alternative theory. I wonder if it has something to do with a flat-earth/Roswell hypothesis. And will we have to wear tinfoil helmets?
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Sister Rosetta Tharpe (March 20, 1915 – October 9, 1973) was an American singer, songwriter, guitarist, and recording artist. She attained popularity in the 1930s and 1940s with her gospel recordings, characterized by a unique mixture of spiritual lyrics and rhythmic accompaniment that was a precursor of rock and roll. She was the first great recording star of gospel music and among the first gospel musicians to appeal to rhythm-and-blues and rock-and-roll audiences, later being referred to as "the original soul sister" and "the Godmother of rock and roll".[1][2][3][4] She influenced early rock-and-roll musicians, including Little Richard, Johnny Cash, Carl Perkins, Chuck Berry, Elvis Presley and Jerry Lee Lewis.[5][6][7] Tharpe was a pioneer in her guitar technique; she was among the first popular recording artists to use heavy distortion on her electric guitar, presaging the rise of electric blues. Her guitar playing technique had a profound influence on the development of British blues in the 1960s; in particular a European tour with Muddy Waters in 1964 with a stop in Manchester on 7 May is cited by prominent British guitarists such as Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, and Keith Richards.[8] |
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^ If anyone wants to read more about the birth of rock n roll, I highly recommend Preston Lauterbach's "The Chitlin Circuit and the Road to Rock n Roll", a fun read that contains numerous interviews and in depth conversations with people who were there when rock n roll and RnB came out of black church music and jump blues.
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^ Not to mention all three main avenues to rock and roll, those being blues, jazz and country music, all originated with black performers.
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Pfff. Everyone knows that the Beatles invented rock & roll.
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Bro, you should be banned from PA for suggesting this........Been good knowin ya! |
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Saw them at the LA Forum, somewhere in a box I still have the full page concert add that was in the Sunday LA Times Calendar section.....Probably unreadable but what the heck. I've seen EW&F probably 7-8x, just here in PNW seen them 3x. First time I saw them was Cal Jam I in '74....sadly I don't recall ELP since they came on after midnight, I was 10yrs old and my aunt and uncle took me we left, I think, after Deep Purple.....
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Plus, let's be real. I don't think there would be alternative "theories." Theories require so much research until, while they can't be "proven" in an empirical sense, they can't be "disproven" either. So most of what has been said is based in historical fact or is potentially a theory. One may have an alternative "hypothesis," but if one is about to argue that the basis of rock and many other genres can't be mostly attributed to black artists, you'd need a lot of evidence to call it a theory. So bring on the evidence.
(You could argue I'm applying scientific method practices to a historical question, but whatever, there's your daily dose of pedantic BS.)
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Out of all the posts about "what is prog?", this is probably the best definition! |
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