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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 02:04
Don't you guys realise that you're being trolled?

@Ompha: very well done!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 06:08
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Hey ompha's back. Good, things were getting a bit boring!


leave it to women.. they have a habit of livening things up haha..
 

yeah next time Ompha gets back out on the tiki torch tour and makes it makes it back to D.C.. I hope she looks me up... I'd love a little one on one action with her over a beer or two and discuss face to face.. with no internet or videos.. some of her interesting ideas.

I did have to laugh out loud when as expected the Pentagon laughed in Trump's face and told him to read and understand the constitution and his history...  our miliitary  is not a domestic law enforcement body.  

request (order)... DENIED!!!!   good man that Mattis..  saving America from Trump.. hopefully someday a book will be written about how our military and its leaders saved America from Trump...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 06:12
What a smack in the face of anyone who's actually lived under totalitarian communism, where no-one could start a business, accumulate property, save for future goals, and any public disagreements with the status quo could get you deported and forced to do slave labor for as far as the governments could make it so. Bernie would be a moderate in any other Western country, America clearly has no idea what actual communism looks like and it's definitely not a current threat to your society to any degree.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 06:24
^ of course not...  it is a great and very effective boogyman scare tactic which is easily consumed by those that have it seems.. no intellectual or obviously practical idea of what Socialism or Communism really are. 

as in much regarding politics today... the lesson was set in stone with Willie Horton.. and much refined over the years by the Republican Party.. it is much easier to play to fear and anger and encourage ignorance than to actually talk issues and policy (remember facts tend to have a liberal bias haha) which are not sexy, nor red meat that get people riled up and out to vote (the big Democratic problem over the years) and thus as we have seen the final culmination for the Republican Party in the Trump years... the lack of the ability to goven and find difficult solutions to difficult problems when they are in power.. and not just a back bench opposition party.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 09:19
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Don't you guys realise that you're being trolled?

@Ompha: very well done!

well to be honest..  my better half thinks Ompha isn't what she claims to be.. she is well aware of what I did here in the very beginning of the site and registered as a woman and trolled the sh*t out of the forum. (most famously leaving a not to be named Collab with a broken heart when I disappeared and became 'Micky' a year later...

so no.. playing the woman on the site is not unheard of though I'm not sure what is worse.. doing so for cover in a poltical thread or getting ones kicks being a dick tease for sex challenged prog fans...

but she hasn't seen what some of us have and understand.. there are plenty of nutty and batsh*t crazy women around.  Hell...I'd be Ompaha is a damn redhead... so perhaps we should skip that beer... especially if you are half way decent looking hahah

though I have often wondered if Ompha isn't some Russian troll or ex-KGB agent getting their kicks stirring up division and rancor here...  

who knows... it is PA's.. truly the forum of the strange and unexplainable...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 12:29
Anyone still interested in what's going on with about 500 caged immigrant children and babies? Have they been shredded yet?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 03 2018 at 16:42
Originally posted by npjnpj npjnpj wrote:

Anyone still interested in what's going on with about 500 caged immigrant children and babies? Have they been shredded yet?

probably not. .and hopefully not LOL

can't really blame us for not keeping up on that..  part of the reality we are in is every day it seems Trump world gets more surreal and outlandish.  Hard to keep up with everything..  best analogy I've heard.. heard this in a bar the other day.. Trump world is like one of those fog bound interstate pileups that occasionally make the news .. you sort of lose sight on the one car crushed for the overall panaroma of destruction.

if one really wants to point to Trump playing 4-D political chess..  it is in that...  make such a daily mess one loses sight of the individual travesties....  I mean the one that seemingly just happened..  for it just did..  using our military as some 3rd world banana republic police force shooting down anyone throwing rocks at them was already replaced in the Trumpworld news cycle that he thought he could or would even attempt to circumvent the consistution with a mere executive order.

it is the reality we live in.. thanks to Trump and those that voted for him... enjoying it while we have it.  In the near future.. there will be entire classes dedictated to US history 2016-2020 and how we as a nation completely fell off the rocker regarding the very things that we once held dear for ideals..   it is as close to an authoritarian regime as this country has ever come and hopefully ever will.  We do have a president who thinks he can rule through decree.. and through personal charisma.. not the very tennents this country was established upon.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2018 at 19:39
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

he thought he could or would even attempt to circumvent the consistution with a mere executive order.


What do you think about Obama attempts to circumvent the constitution? Title IX for example to take just one? Do you think his administration's guidelines were unconstitutional in that case?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2018 at 20:01
Maybe the difference is that Obama was, uhm, a Constitutional Professor ?

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 04 2018 at 21:31
Originally posted by IVNORD IVNORD wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

he thought he could or would even attempt to circumvent the consistution with a mere executive order.


What do you think about Obama attempts to circumvent the constitution? Title IX for example to take just one? Do you think his administration's guidelines were unconstitutional in that case?

short answer..

no.  

One can argue about executive overreach all one wants to.. it is a fact of life today regardless of who the president is of of what party. The excecutive branch has long established primalsy over the legislative branch but one would have to be a complete f**king idiot. And to be honest.. you'd disappoint me for thinking so for I had you tagged as having some sense and some brains.. to equate executive overreach TO A FEDERAL LAW.. not even the constitution... with an executive order SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO CIRCUMVENT a very clear and precise element of our constitution.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 06:22
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:


  The excecutive branch has long established primalsy over the legislative branch 

I beg to differ.

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

 to equate executive overreach TO A FEDERAL LAW.. not even the constitution... with an executive order SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO CIRCUMVENT a very clear and precise element of our constitution.

I may be wrong, and I apologize if I am, but judging by your answer you don't seem to know the subject. To make sure we're on the same page....  Here's the guidelines just in case you want the original: https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/opa/legacy/2013/05/09/um-ltr-findings.pdf

To the point.... these guidelines established, among other things, the procedure of dealing with sexual harassment on college campuses which allows (and encourages) college administrators to proceed with a speedy investigation and trial of the alleged perpetrators by a group of random individuals consisting of anybody but trained jurists. 

Do you think it was SPECIFICALLY INTENDED TO CIRCUMVENT a very clear and precise element of our constitution, namely due process? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2018 at 23:07
California turnout looks to be impressive -

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 00:03
My thoughts and prayers are with the USA today, so you're all quite safe. Unless God hates you LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 08:27
Styx voted Obama in 2008 but then the Obama democrats embraced corporate America and proxy war.   That's why the Dems have more money for the Midterms.   It's not grandmother's social security check. 

  Bernie Sanders is not a democrat.  Bernie is an independent socialist and that's why the Dems allowed Hillary to stole the nomination from Sanders.   I hated Bush.  The Dems didn't change names but they changed into Big Corporation sucking, war mongering Bush*tes.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 08:49
^ and you voted for t rump, the ultimate corporate connected politician and lap dog for the wealthiest elite in the world.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 08:54
I don't think the GOP has much to worry about, because, let's face it, whatever that convoluted construct is, it's not a democracy if the candidate with the fewest votes wins the election. It really is as simple as that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 10:53
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

^ and you voted for t rump, the ultimate corporate connected politician and lap dog for the wealthiest elite in the world.
The scary thing about Trump is that he sees himself as a defender of the American worker. The white blue collar worker only but still a worker non the less. He also sees himself as a maverick that is against the big corporations as they are sh*t scared, naturally, of Trump's trade tariffs. This may all be in Trump's mind but that's the deal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 11:05
I didn't vote for Trump in 2016.  However, I will vote for Trump in 2020 if he doesn't start a war.   You guys must love war like Obama.  Obama started wars.

I will vote for Trump if he doesn't jail journalists like Obama.   Obama jailed multiple journalists.  Trump hasn't jailed a single journalist.  So I guess you guys are against Free Speech and you guys are for jailing journalists. 

I will vote for Trump because he lowered my taxes and millions of other middle class tax payers.  So you guys must be for higher taxes.  

I will vote for whichever campaign takes the less money from Giant Corporations.  Yep, Hillary took way more money from Giant Corporations than Trump.    You guys must be for Giant Corporations. 

I will vote for Trump if he welcomes legal immigration but thwarts illegal immigration.  You guys must be for Non citizens controlling the USA. 

Trump has kept his campaign promises more than any President in decades.  Obama promised lower healthcare prices and Obama promised  I could keep my own doctor.  Obama broke his promise.  Obama promised peace but he started wars... You guys must hate politicians who keep their promises.

You guys claim CNN , NBC, Washington Post, and NY Times are unbiased.  Even though CNN newcasters had tears in their eyes on 2016 election night.  And currently 92% of all Trump coverage is negative for a President who:
1. Lowered Middle Class taxes by a couple thousand dollars.
2. Hasn't started a war.
3. Is denuclearizing North Korea.
4. Ended 90% of ISIS terrorism.
5. Hasn't jailed a journalist
6.  Record Stock market
7. All time low unemployment for Hispanics and Blacks.  Lowest unemployment for Women in 65 years. Under Obama black poverty increased.  Under Trump decreased.
8. Best economy in 50 years.
9. Did away with Obama mandate which penalized folks who couldn't afford Obama care  and cost folks a few thousand dollars a year to NOT HAVE Insurance. 
10.  Cut better trade deals for USA.  EU, Canada, and Mexico already capitulated and gave America better Trade Deals.  China will capitulate too.
11.  No Russian collusion after 2 years of the highest powered investigation in history of world.  I wonder why CNN Isn't screaming Russian collusion anymore. 
12. 4 Million more Jobs
13. Companies moving back to America because of Trump Executive Orders not punishing American Products.
14.  Trump puts American Citizens first.  Record Blue Collar employment.
15. Anti-illegal immigration.  Over 90% of opioids come from south of Border.  70,000 Americans die a year from overdoses.  Trump is in process of curbing opioid use in America.
16. Kept promise to move USA embassy to Jerusalem.  Past 5 Presidents broke their promise to move embassy to Jerusalem.
17. Change rules for Vets. Instead of waiting months now a Vet can see doctor of their choice and get care instead of die or worsen.
18. Trump donates his paycheck to charity.  Trump works for free.
19.  Trump doesn't allow for his cabinet and workers to Lobby.  They sign deal where they can't lobby for 5 years!   If Congress wasn't allowed to lobby, that would stop pay for play and most corruption.
20.  Under Trump record number of child traffickers and pedophiles JAILED!  Thousands and thousands of Pedophiles jailed.

Does that kind of Record deserve 92% negative coverage by national media?    MSM is Fake news.  MSM is the Democrat megaphone.  Like I said, CNN newscasters cried on air like little babies when Trump won 2016 election.

You guys won't be able to respond to my post with FACTS.  You guys can only respond with personal feelings because you don't like Trump's personality. I get it. 

 On the other hand, I value "Promises kept" and Policy follow-through.  You guys would rather worship a slick democrat politician who starts wars and picks your pocket of thousands of earned dollars.    I get it.

I will only respond to folks who wish to debate facts.   No one can legislate your feelings. I understand your feelings guys.   Can you guys separate feelings from facts?     I don't think so.  But that's OK because under Trump your free speech is PROTECTED.  Say whatever you want about Trump...Curse Trump or burn Trump in effigy...You won't be jailed or discriminated against because Trump will protect your rights!  Unlike Obama who jailed journalists.  Wink  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 11:11
I didn't vote for Trump.  I will not vote for Trump in 2020 if he doesn't start a war.   You guys must love war like Obama.  Obama started wars.

I will not vote for Trump if he doesn't jail journalist like Obama.   Obama jailed multiple journalists.  Trump hasn't jailed a single journalist.  So I guess you guys are against Free Speech and you guys are for jailing journalist. 

I will not vote for Trump because he lowered my taxes and millions of other middle class tax payers.  So you guys must be for higher taxes.  

I will  not vote for whichever campaign takes the less money from Giant Corporations.  Yep, Hillary took way more money from Giant Corporations than Trump.    You guys must be for Giant Corporations. 

I will not vote for Trump if he welcomes legal immigration but thwarts illegal immigration.  You guys must be for Non citizens controlling the USA. 

Trump has kept his campaign promises more than any President in decades.  Obama promise lower healthcare prices and that I could keep my own doctor.  Obama broke his promise.  Obama promised peace but he started wars... You guys must hate politicians who keep their promises
 
I would not vote for Trump even if he cured cancer. He should not be a politician let alone president.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2018 at 11:50
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I didn't vote for Trump.  I will not vote for Trump in 2020 if he doesn't start a war.  
 
I would not vote for Trump even if he cured cancer. He should not be a politician let alone president.
 


LOL!   I knew I had you pegged SteveG.   You're like Nero.  You'd rather see millions die and America burn than see President Trump win 2020.   I understand how you feel Steve.   I get you. 

  I found your honesty refreshing.Wink Clap  




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