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brainstormer
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 20 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Status: Offline Points: 887 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:29 | ||
I hate being mean to any artists, except perhaps those who foster
a spirit of nihilism or darkness in their music. I'm listening to "Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear" (1983) for the first time and getting through all of it, I'm just about done. It's just background music at work. I'm struck by how exactly it is like Genesis from ten years previous, with maybe a touch of post-Gabriel Genesis thrown in. I think maybe it's meant to be a little like Dr. Who, a little bit campy? Dr. Who was that way on purpose, does Marillion bring a sense of humor to their work? The ultimate neo-prog group for me would be the ones that had some camp involved. |
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JD
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Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:31 | ||
I've tried and tried to get into this genre, I'd estiamte that less than 10% of what I hear would I ever want to hear again. Several of the poll statements are relevant but I choose...
"Not so much cheesy as not bringing anything new to the table" as the MOST applicable |
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Progosopher
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 12 2009 Location: Coolwood Status: Offline Points: 6394 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:40 | ||
As with Prog Metal, I find a lot of cheese here but it is of a tastier variety.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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HolyMoly
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: April 01 2009 Location: Atlanta Status: Offline Points: 26133 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:41 | ||
I'm not really a "customer" of neo, so I have a very limited knowledge of it. Sometimes I'm in the mood for some of that stuff, though, and I'm well aware that Collins Genesis (which I love) is a key influence on that stuff.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:48 | ||
Just expressing my opinion. Polls that have negative leading questions and disparaging poll options cannot be anything but negative. Somehow I cannot imagine that you would start a Poll with "Does Symphonic Prog sound boring to you?", or "Does Relayer sound like a cacophonous noise to you?" There are ways to canvas opinion that do not start from a negative stance, this is not one of them. |
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Raff
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Posted: November 05 2014 at 18:14 | ||
Though I am not particularly interested in neo-prog, nor particularly thrilled by what I have heard, there are a lot of people who enjoy the subgenre. Variety is, after all, the spice of life! I feel no need to bash something that doesn't float my boat: I just ignore it, and listen to what I like. In any case, I voted for "not so much cheesy, as not bringing anything new to the table". |
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 18:21 | ||
Can I have your attention?......or do I have to start a poll
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tuxon
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 21 2004 Location: plugged-in Status: Offline Points: 5502 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 18:50 | ||
et tu timothy, you have my undivided att.....hey a smily face in the corner of my eye
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Prog_Traveller
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 19:19 | ||
[There are ways to canvas opinion that do not start from a negative stance, this is not one of them.] Seriously, why do you even care? I suggest you take your own advice before you reprimand me. Can't you express yourself in a way that doesn't bait people and put them on the defensive? Anyway, my polls are only negative if you are making the assumption that "cheese" has to be a negative thing. Otherwise it's up to those who respond and or vote in the poll and not you or I to make assumptions about the term "cheesy." I only used the word "cheesy" because I have heard other people use the term as it is applied to prog metal and neo prog. Therefore please do not make assumptions about my intentions in creating this poll!!!! Your negative comments about my supposed negative polls are hypocritical to say the least.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 05 2014 at 19:42 |
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30845 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 19:28 | ||
Neo, cheesy? Of course and that's the way I like it!
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timothy leary
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2005 Location: Lilliwaup, Wa. Status: Offline Points: 5319 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 19:28 | ||
My favorite is........Primus.....Sailing the Seas of Cheese
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Prog_Traveller
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: November 05 2014 at 19:30 | ||
Alright. Nothing wrong with that. See if I thought cheesy had to be a bad thing I would get all pissed off at this kind of comment but I'm not because I welcome these kinds of comments.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 05 2014 at 19:30 |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:04 | ||
This. |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Prog_Traveller
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:10 | ||
Funny because I actually like spoken word in prog. I even like it in Rick Wakeman's "journey to the center of the earth." However, I do admit it sounds cheesy on the one track on Eloy's "power and the passion" album. I still like that track though.
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Barbu
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 09 2005 Location: infinity Status: Offline Points: 30845 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:18 | ||
Eloy? Cheesy?
NOW I'M VERY ANGRY AND I FEEL THE URGE TO CRUSH SOMEONE'S FACE ON THE WALL RIGHT NOW Damn, this is totally ridiculous. |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:20 | ||
It is not hypocritical to register my disapproval of two polls created in 3 minutes of each other that refer to two subgenres of music as "cheesy". If you want to put a positive spin on the word "cheesy" then that's just cool, but that would make my initial remark in this thread positive too. |
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:21 | ||
hahahaha!!!! I cannot stop laughing now, Barbu hahaha!!!! so funny
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Prog_Traveller
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:35 | ||
[It is not hypocritical to register my disapproval of two polls created in 3 minutes of each other that refer to two subgenres of music as "cheesy". ]
Sure, you can pretend that's what I was referring to why not. We can also pretend you are a happy positive person on here who only has nice things to say in threads. [If you want to put a positive spin on the word "cheesy" then that's just cool, but that would make my initial remark in this thread positive too.] I wasn't putting any spin on it. YOU WERE! Anyway, I am done with our conversation here. Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 01:48 |
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Dean
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Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:47 | ||
Okay, you've turned this into a personal attack. I'll take your criticism and brickbats on the chin and walk away.
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Prog_Traveller
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 29 2005 Location: Bucks county PA Status: Offline Points: 1474 |
Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:49 | ||
Hey I'm just defending myself here. You started the attacks not me just so you know.
Edited by Prog_Traveller - November 06 2014 at 01:54 |
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